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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2154 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2008 :  09:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Caryne is absolutely right - I remember very vividly reading in August 1965 (in my dad's copy of the Daily Mail)that The Byrds' arrival at London Airport had been greeted with protests from their English near namesakes. I've just been checking Johnny Rogan's book on this and he says that The Birds (Ronnie Wood's first group) actually served a writ on their unwelcome American guests. He goes on to say that this is recounted in the classic line from Eight Miles High:

" Nowhere is there warmth to be found from those afraid of losing their ground"

The Byrds had apparently considered calling themselves 'The Birds' but had changed their minds when they realised the 'girls' association with the word in Britain. I'm not certain how the 'y' got in there. It has been suggested that the name derived from the aviator Richard Evelyn Byrd. But I prefer the link with the Elizabethan composer William Byrd - whose madrigal sound was reflected a little in the group's early recordings. This said, I am quite prepared to concede that this may just be my own personal fantasy ......but where would we be without those!


Edited by - John9 on 06/09/2008 14:42:55
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2008 :  16:14:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John9

......but where would we be without those!




....or the Byrds!

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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2154 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2008 :  09:45:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
or indeed The Birds.....check out this great looking compilation:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0000258YW/ref=s9sdps_c2_15_at1-rfc_p?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0F5XYVBKJPRZWDQBQCP8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=210507891&pf_rd_i=468294

"Rain grey town, known for its sound"

Edited by - John9 on 07/09/2008 13:14:56
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
1520 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2008 :  17:13:20  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John9

or indeed The Birds.....check out this great looking compilation:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0000258YW/ref=s9sdps_c2_15_at1-rfc_p?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0F5XYVBKJPRZWDQBQCP8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=210507891&pf_rd_i=468294

"Rain grey town, known for its sound"





I reckon I need commission for introducing/reminding people of this band
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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2154 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2008 :  20:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

But Caryne - you have our gratitude.......riches far beyond mere material reward!

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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
1520 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2008 :  20:34:08  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John9


But Caryne - you have our gratitude.......riches far beyond mere material reward!





Thank you
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2008 :  18:25:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heh heh I swear I never even heard about a band called the "Birds"....where the hell was I??..

Now with "birds" all I know is...

"You tell that me you've got everything you want
And your BYRD can sing
But you don't get me, you don't get me"...

...and BYRDS can be green, BYRDS can be broken and BYRDS can swing!

And come to think of it that's one of my favorite songs from those guys they all the "Beedles"

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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2008 :  22:53:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MONO raves!
We were talking about the mono FC in a LoVE topic and concluded it was too far into the late 60's to have any
real listening value...just a rarity. I would like to bring up any mono LPs that really knock you out. One for me,
particularly, is After Bathing At Baxter's. It is so much more punchy & clean but particularly...Martha has a
really different intro with the bass hitting a note off-beat, four times, that actually makes it sound like the record is
skipping. It does not appear on the stereo mix. I had to check my vinyl for a scratch the first time that I heard it.
It still knocks me out. That, & Surrealistic Pillow, are much better in mono, for me.

Any old mono presses that knock you out, anyone!

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.





Edited by - lemonade kid on 08/09/2008 22:56:55
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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2154 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2008 :  12:05:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Lemonadekid - I know exactly what you mean about Martha. The mono mix with its pronounced gulping base line sounds even more otherworldy - I've got it as a (legal) download - along with some of the Airplane's other rare stuff. Their original albums have been remastered so many times now - but my CD editions of Takes Off and Surrealistic Pillow present the mono and stereo versions back to back - just like the first two Love remasters. I once had a UK mono version of The Association's second album, Renaissance. One of the tracks, Looking Glass, sounded entirely different - and again, much more interesting.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2008 :  14:29:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lk..yer makin' me work... I just checked my old copy of Pillow after your ref and after all these years I see that my copy of Pillow is indeed mono. I remember buying it at an old store called Korvettes where they had separate bins for stereo and mono!
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2008 :  14:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and john9..The Association..kind of an under-rated band I think. They made some nice bright tunes. Their "Everything That Touches You" is, for me, one of the finest songs ever created. The lyrics and melody are top notch.
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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2154 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2008 :  17:09:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right on, Rocker - Everything That Touches You is an absolute classic and of course comes from their fourth album, Birthday. The same LP yielded their only top 30 UK hit - Time For Livin. I could never understand it - Radio Luxembourg would play single after single and then say how well it was doing in America - but The Association never seemed to crack it here. Back to the Airplane - their debut album was not initially released here and so their first release was Surrealistic Pillow - but in a way it resembled a Capitol Beatles album in that it did not have Funny Cars, Plastic Fantastic or White Rabbit - but it did have Don't Slip Away, Come Up the Years and Chauffeur Blues. The import version which of course was in a much deeper pink, became known as 'the White Rabbit edition' and as you might expect was horrendously expensive!

Edited by - John9 on 09/09/2008 17:29:13
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2008 :  17:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to see some Association fans. To many, they are just a pop hit band, but their LPs are some of
the best pop psych out there. I have their first (Cherish LP) in mono & it really has some great folk-rock psych.
They are one of the first to use the mellotron & some really ethereal psych stuff...& one of the first drug songs to
get past the censors....Along Comes Mary. Their cover of Johnny Cash's "Burned" is great too. Not sure how
different mono is from stereo, but the mono is right up-front, in your face, shut-up-and-listen music!

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.





Edited by - lemonade kid on 09/09/2008 22:52:02
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2008 :  15:11:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lk..so it is true that the song is about "marryjuana"?????
And their "Requiem from the Masses" really brings back the debacle of that quagmire we were in all those years ago...Viet Nam.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2008 :  23:47:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

lk..so it is true that the song is about "marryjuana"?????
And their "Requiem from the Masses" really brings back the debacle of that quagmire we were in all those years ago...Viet Nam.


Ya, rocker. I think I bought the single "Windy" (such a great song. my favorite), but the flip side was "Requiem..." and that just blew me away. Where are the new songwriters of today with the
cojones to write a song like that?!!

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That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.




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