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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 19/08/2008 :  20:36:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

lk..come to think of it how did Clark meet up with the orignal guys in the Byrds??... nots sure.was he doing a folk thing like McGuinn?


Ya, Gene met McGuinn at the Troubadour Club in LA after leaving The New Cristy's (inspired to leave for LA by the Beatles' success; & McGuinn left the folk scene due to the same inspiration). Clark & McGuinn were playing together at the Folk Den when Crosby, hearing them, persuaded them to let him join in. Then the group idea started with Clarke & Hillman joining soon after. (Jetset & Beefeaters were earlier band names, very short lived!) So ya, just like Crosby.
CSN are working on reducing a 60 song set to 20 for their first new studio release since 1994. I've heard some tracks and they are VERY good, like the old days of classic analog CSN...a return to the earlier greatness, I think. Can't wait!

I've often thought about the "what if" scenario of: what if Crosby had not gotten fired by the Byrds (no CSN?) & what if Stephen Stills HAD been hired for the part he applied for as a Monkee?!! (NO Buffalo Springfield & NO CSN?!!...& maybe no Poco, no Loggins & Messina, the list goes on & on.....it all just fell into place)
Dont'cha love fate & karma!!


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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........
(Gene Clark, "Some Misunderstanding")


Edited by - lemonade kid on 19/08/2008 21:03:10
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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 20/08/2008 :  14:44:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah and certainly no Hard Day's Night no Roger McGuinn and the Byrds...Roger liked that sound from the song..I did too when I first heard it...and if Arthur didn't see the Byrds maybe he would've simply invented rap earlier???........
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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 20/08/2008 :  16:45:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

yeah and certainly no Hard Day's Night no Roger McGuinn and the Byrds...Roger liked that sound from the song..I did too when I first heard it...and if Arthur didn't see the Byrds maybe he would've simply invented rap earlier???........


Yikes! No FC?!!

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........
(Gene Clark, "Some Misunderstanding")

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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 21/08/2008 :  14:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
..and it's great Arthur took the route he did...I give thanks so I will now spin "Between Clark & Hilldale"...go on and listen to the notes...it's in de air.........
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lemonade kid
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Posted - 22/08/2008 :  16:25:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just thought we should do an appreciation of folk blues pioneer ROBERT JOHNSON.
What blues/blues-rock/R & B artist hasn't credited Johnson for their inspiration & creative muse! Mayall, Clapton, Plant & Page, et al.......all hail the King of the Delta Blues. Got Volume 1 coming by post, on vinyl. The Father of them all........

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........
(Gene Clark, "Some Misunderstanding")

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rocker
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Posted - 26/08/2008 :  14:19:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johnson..He's a legend dying at 27. I read he's about the only pre-WWII musician still having an effect on subsequent musicians especially with his blues records that he made. Keith Richards apparently when he first heard him thought he was playing TWO guitars. They said he was a poet too:
"I'm a cutthroat seller
The magician of Deal
Who can stoke sweet fire
That'll make you feel
Like a hothouse flower
On double defrost
Who won't give a nickel
For the petals it lost"....

R Johnson
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 27/08/2008 :  19:04:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
re: The rock starved younger generation!

I mentioned to a younger manager of a food-chain store that the total of $19.67 (1967) was a good year.
(I do that with my $$ totals for some reason!) He said "why?" & I replied, "that it was the year that Sgt.
Pepper's was released." He replied.....
"oh....I 've heard of it, but never HEARD it!!"
Talk about musically deprived!! Rock & Roll 101 should be required in
every school in the world! The history of the 60's isn't complete without the music...
it defined the times. How many period documentary films use the music of the times as a backdrop?
Almost all, I think.

I'm taking a copy back to that poor musically starved "kid". Geeze, gotta get the gospel according to rock out there.....
doing my best!! Glad to have you younger "folks" on this site, jim, kula and so on !!!!!!

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.





Edited by - lemonade kid on 27/08/2008 23:32:53
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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 28/08/2008 :  00:26:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right now I'm listening to JERRY RIOPELLE............

He's unknown to most outside Arizona where he still sells 50,000 CDs with each new release. Remarkable in a state
of only 3 million. I was turned on to him when going to college there in the 70's. He's still hot today there.
A cult figure elsewhere, his history is amazing. Phil Spector's first "producer" for Phil's newly formed label in 1965, his musical journey since is full of great tunes. If you're interested in something new in your music world, check out the link to an interview/bio & the youtube video of "Blues On The Table"...one of my favorites. Please do.......I like a lot of music, but this is one of my favorites. Rocker, bobf, john9 and all you messageboard guys..check this one out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWG6TSkTzik&feature=related

http://www.spectropop.com/HOTB/HOTBpart3.htm

If you are interested still!......here are some free mp3's from Jerry's site. "Candy Bar" is so good.
http://www.jerryriopelle.com/jrmusic.htm

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.





Edited by - lemonade kid on 28/08/2008 18:47:36
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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 02/09/2008 :  15:02:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey lk you learned something with that rock-starved kid, eh???
I got faked out too when I go in a store sometimes and ask for anything they have by the "Byrds". But you know I have to s-p-e-l-l them out! So my world isn't necessarily theirs!
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 02/09/2008 :  22:34:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

hey lk you learned something with that rock-starved kid, eh???
I got faked out too when I go in a store sometimes and ask for anything they have by the "Byrds". But you know I have to s-p-e-l-l them out! So my world isn't necessarily theirs!


Sad, really..........
(where have you been, rocker?)
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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.





Edited by - lemonade kid on 02/09/2008 22:35:09
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caryne
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  20:14:57  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

hey lk you learned something with that rock-starved kid, eh???
I got faked out too when I go in a store sometimes and ask for anything they have by the "Byrds". But you know I have to s-p-e-l-l them out! So my world isn't necessarily theirs!



Perhaps those shop assistants just want to make sure which 'Byrds' you are after.....there were these after all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birds_(band)
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  22:28:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by caryne

quote:
Originally posted by rocker

hey lk you learned something with that rock-starved kid, eh???
I got faked out too when I go in a store sometimes and ask for anything they have by the "Byrds". But you know I have to s-p-e-l-l them out! So my world isn't necessarily theirs!



Perhaps those shop assistants just want to make sure which 'Byrds' you are after.....there were these after all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birds_(band)


You maybe know that obscure UK band (being on your side of the pond), caryne, but I tend to think it's just musically anemic US kids....I don't know the state of music in the UK, but if the industry had it's way we'd be buying nothing but American Idol winners & runner ups (a bit if an exaggeration, but you know what I mean)!! Save us! But more and more the kids are getting turned on to the good music....one can only take being force-fed that kind of slop for so long.
(That is interesting about Ronnie Wood being in the original lineup of The Birds (UK). Thanks for the heads up.)

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That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.




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caryne
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  23:07:18  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It was meant to be a joke (hence the wink symbol). I didn't really think young people in an US music shop would know The Birds

Still,there weren't a bad band actually, pity they got sidelined.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  23:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by caryne

It was meant to be a joke (hence the wink symbol). I didn't really think young people in an US music shop would know The Birds

Still,there weren't a bad band actually, pity they got sidelined.


Missed the wink! Sometimes that British dry humor is lost over the waves....on me anyway.

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Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.





Edited by - lemonade kid on 05/09/2008 23:28:10
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  23:30:09  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

quote:
Originally posted by caryne

It was meant to be a joke (hence the wink symbol). I didn't really think young people in an US music shop would know The Birds

Still,there weren't a bad band actually, pity they got sidelined.


Missed the wink! Sometimes that British dry humor is lost over the waves....on me anyway.

____________________________________________________________
Now I see that in my vision
That my eyes are seeing twice
Once for every expectation & once for what I realize.........G.C.








It's OK, LK, I reckon The Birds are a band that most people know little about which is a pity as they were pretty good

Edited by - caryne on 05/09/2008 23:31:13
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