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lemonade kid
Old Love
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 Posted - 25/06/2008 : 22:48:52
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lk, Yes, of course, best voice ever recorded for love songs: Ella Fitzgerald. 'Love Sinatra's ealy stuff - through the 60's. Lou Rawls is a great, genuine L.A. talent who was big always, but especially at the cusp of LOVE's coming on the scene.
I saw Tony Bennett perform at Neil Young's Bridge Show Concert ,a couple of years ago. He was fine; did a duet with Paul McCartney!
All misspellings are purposeful...
Tony Bennett is a smart guy....figured out how to bridge the generation gap....of course, he had to have the chops!
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 04:43:30
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bob f. Don't know why rock and roll is so shy of the pedal steel. Country-rockers at least are not
afraid of the steel.........Poco & Rusty Young really show us how to ROCK...I know I 've said this before!
Later Poco LPs tend to get a little too polished for me, but the early Poco is amazing.
CSN uses it well on "Teach Your Children", but it is more rhythmic than rockin'!!
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 05:21:08
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At least some high profile artists such as Dylan, George Harrison, Warren Zevon, Todd Rundgren, The Byrds,
& Gene Clark, among others, were not afraid to use the pedal steel to great effect. Any hard rockers?....I don't
know?! anyone?
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 14:10:50
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lk.. I think you mentioned before about how the Beatles influenced things that came later and I'd say one area was "country" with the rockers. "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party", "Honey Don't", and "Act Naturally" looks as if it started it off. The Stones then
I think got into some "country" and used the pedal steel (though I don't think the Beatles ever did). Brian Eno, who I figure most know here. appears to have used it on his "Apollo" soundtrack unless it's another instrument in there tuned to sound like a pedal steel. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 17:04:49
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Originally posted by rocker
lk.. I think you mentioned before about how the Beatles influenced things that came later and I'd say one area was "country" with the rockers. "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party", "Honey Don't", and "Act Naturally" looks as if it started it off. The Stones then
I think got into some "country" and used the pedal steel (though I don't think the Beatles ever did). Brian Eno, who I figure most know here. appears to have used it on his "Apollo" soundtrack unless it's another instrument in there tuned to sound like a pedal steel.
The Beatles definately........wasn't that Lennon on the lap steel on Let It Be?? Harrison used Pete Drake on the pedal steel on all 'Things Must Pass' & Ringo on 'Beaucoups of Blues'. The point about the 'new' Country music not using the steel is right from what little I hear. Willy Nelson said the new Country music isn't country at all....it's just rock
& pop music on country stations. I like the old country....it was based on the traditional hill country music that
originated in places like Ireland. Like Poco said, "Sittin' pickin' and a-grinnin', casually....." no apologies there. Too
bad it didn't infuse further into rock music, but it wasn't for lack of trying by many in the late 60's & early 70's.
(note: or was that slide guitar by Lennon? Likely......)
From what I understand, pedal steel is very hard to master & play well, but the results of a well played pedal steel
are fantastic. There was actually a 'Concerto For Pedal Steel & Orchestra' (first ever) by Michael A. Levine performed
by the Nashville Chamber Orchestra in 2005...... Gary Morse on pedal steel. Wonder what that was like?
That gives great respect to a great instrument......how about some respect from the school of rock....and modern country,
for that matter!
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bob f.
Old Love
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Posted - 27/06/2008 : 03:36:16
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Buck Owens (r.i.p.) was an influence for The Beatles, and his pedal steel player , Tom Brumley, was playing it loud and cool!
i, too, can not understand why this amazing, cosmic music instrument is kept down. maybe, it's because it's too good.
many recordings have guitar and fiddle and pedal steel taking turns, all sounding great, blending together, and yet, i always am begging and waiting for the pedal steel back for that spot on the recording!
the sound of it is paranormal. guitarists almost reach the high, and
strive for that pedal steel sound. but ultimately, the best recordings respect the magic symbiotic relationship of the amazing pedal steel and its other partners.
i found this wikipedia page about pedal steel, and see a list of many players. crazy, though, Jay Dee Maness is missing! stupid!
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bob f.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 27/06/2008 : 03:42:39
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Originally posted by bob f.
Buck Owens (r.i.p.) was an influence for The Beatles, and his pedal steel player , Tom Brumley, was playing it loud and cool!
i, too, can not understand why this amazing, cosmic music instrument is kept down. maybe, it's because it's too good.
many recordings have guitar and fiddle and pedal steel taking turns, all sounding great, blending together, and yet, i always am begging and waiting for the pedal steel back for that spot on the recording!
the sound of it is paranormal. guitarists almost reach the high, and
strive for that pedal steel sound. but ultimately, the best recordings respect the magic symbiotic relationship of the amazing pedal steel and its other partners.
i found this wikipedia page about pedal steel, and see a list of many players. crazy, though, Jay Dee Maness is missing! stupid!
...what the world needs now...
Wikipedia has it's lapses, though it generally is a fun fact source. I guess anyone can add info to any subject.......
someone needs to add Jay Dee!!
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 27/06/2008 : 04:45:49
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rocker,
Speaking of brian eno, do you remember the album 'Wrong Way Up' by Brian Eno & John Cale.......pretty good stuff.
No pedal steel but a lot of other instruments from these two. Have always liked John Cale, starting with the Velvets.
.......now that's a band that can get my heart pumping & head spinning! They were so prophetic in their musical style.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 28/06/2008 : 00:25:52
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Just wanted to say that when I started this topic, I never dreamed that I had so many defining moments
in my musical journey. You all make my day when I find that I share a similar appreciation of your moments
and a common thread throughout the '60s with your journey.......I keep rediscovering an old LP when one of you bring
us along on your psychedelic road trip!!
I hope we all keep this thread going for some time......it's the best trip I've had in a long time with people that
share a common passion for everything 60's. Thanks. 
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bob f.
Old Love
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Posted - 29/06/2008 : 00:49:10
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there are alot of obscure jems out there, and i like to bring attention to them. here are some of my favorites:
band: The Fallen Angels.
cd: the Roulette Masters part 2. from the Collectables lable.
amazing psych-rock-folk-pop. a great freekin thing! LOVE worthy!
band: The Human Beinz.
cd: "Evolutions." rockin psych again! GOD, THIS IS GOOD!
band: J.K. & Co.
cd: "Suddenly One Summer".an amazing album. "o.d." is close to a companion piece to "signed d.c."
anyways, what i'm saying is that albums like these are lost jems, fantastic recordings yet still to be rescued from obscurity to be enjoyed and shared! these 3 albums all are LOVE worthy, and have magic! and they are just some of the lost treasure!
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 29/06/2008 : 02:19:31
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Originally posted by bob f.
there are alot of obscure jems out there, and i like to bring attention to them. here are some of my favorites:
band: The Fallen Angels.
cd: the Roulette Masters part 2. from the Collectables lable.
amazing psych-rock-folk-pop. a great freekin thing! LOVE worthy!
band: The Human Beinz.
cd: "Evolutions." rockin psych again! GOD, THIS IS GOOD!
band: J.K. & Co.
cd: "Suddenly One Summer".an amazing album. "o.d." is close to a companion piece to "signed d.c."
anyways, what i'm saying is that albums like these are lost jems, fantastic recordings yet still to be rescued from obscurity to be enjoyed and shared! these 3 albums all are LOVE worthy, and have magic! and they are just some of the lost treasure!
...what the world needs now...
can't say I'm familiar with any of these, bob f. I'm guessing I may have heard some without knowing who I was
listening to (except for the Roulette Masters CD). I'll have to search for these.
QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE.......a revelation to me when the first LP came out! And then the SECOND LP
showed up!!!!!
And I just gotta ask! Has anyone heard of the incredible band Truth & Janey...a 70's power blues-psych rock trio that stands up to Cream and more!!!! You gotta check these guys out! The Best guitarist & band to come out of Iowa, period.
Their 70's vinyl sell for $300-400 here & $2500++ in the European market where they are really collected. Billy Lee
Janey is still one of the most respected guitarists out there today....he had a custom EIGHT string guitar made, so he can hit some of the base lines I think..
He & his son are now the Janeys, & son Bryce Janey compares to other greats, too.
"No Rest For the Wicked" & "Erupts" are great & highly collected!!! Their current stuff is great too.
for listens go to:
http://www.billyleejaney.com/ ........solo work
http://www.thejaneys.com/downloads.html
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnwYspM0ATg
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 29/06/2008 : 05:48:55
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Originally posted by lemonade kid
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Originally posted by bob f.
there are alot of obscure jems out there, and i like to bring attention to them. here are some of my favorites:
band: The Fallen Angels.
cd: the Roulette Masters part 2. from the Collectables lable.
amazing psych-rock-folk-pop. a great freekin thing! LOVE worthy!
band: The Human Beinz.
cd: "Evolutions." rockin psych again! GOD, THIS IS GOOD!
band: J.K. & Co.
cd: "Suddenly One Summer".an amazing album. "o.d." is close to a companion piece to "signed d.c."
anyways, what i'm saying is that albums like these are lost jems, fantastic recordings yet still to be rescued from obscurity to be enjoyed and shared! these 3 albums all are LOVE worthy, and have magic! and they are just some of the lost treasure!
...what the world needs now...
can't say I'm familiar with any of these, bob f. I'm guessing I may have heard some without knowing who I was
listening to (except for the Roulette Masters CD). I'll have to search for these.
QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE.......a revelation to me when the first LP came out! And then the SECOND LP
showed up!!!!!
And I just gotta ask! Has anyone heard of the incredible band Truth & Janey...a 70's power blues-psych rock trio that stands up to Cream and more!!!! You gotta check these guys out! The Best guitarist & band to come out of Iowa, period.
Their 70's vinyl sell for $300-400 here & $2500++ in the European market where they are really collected. Billy Lee
Janey is still one of the most respected guitarists out there today....he had a custom EIGHT string guitar made, so he can hit some of the base lines I think..
He & his son are now the Janeys, & son Bryce Janey compares to other greats, too.
"No Rest For the Wicked" & "Erupts" are great & highly collected!!! Their current stuff is great too.
for listens go to:
http://www.billyleejaney.com/ ........solo work
http://www.thejaneys.com/downloads.html ......especially check out the mp3 & video "Why Do I"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnwYspM0ATg
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 30/06/2008 : 15:06:05
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heh heh you guys are makin' me work....I hope to be checking out the music that was suggested...I know they'll be "revelations" for me...Back then I'm sure you would agree that it was an incredible time for music. Right, there as alot going on at the time and it needs to be unearthed.
That concerto for pedal steel makes me curious and I too, have heard that it's pretty tough to master the instrument.
And fyi..the UK contributed to the country sound back then in the early 70's with "Matthew's Southern Comfort"....fronted by Ian Matthews who sang and Gordon Huntley on steel...had that "English" country sound mixed in with a little Byrds..very nice...and if anybody knows other English bands that went "country", oh let me know! |
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 30/06/2008 : 15:08:37
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| and lk..I liked Eno and Cale in that they really made "new" music out and you don't get run of the mill stuff from them..they always try to do soemthing different....very creative duo..wouldn't you say?...and I really like Eno's ambient stuff... |
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Music Appreciation...yesterday & today!
