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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2008 :  05:47:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LizzyB:
quote:
so who was it did you were on my mind with the lines about
went to the corner to make a score...
came away empty handed



I never heard that version, but my sister had a Chad Mitchell Trio recording of the song that went:
"I went to the corner
just to ease my pain
I got drunk and
I got sick and
I came home again"
So I know that We Five's version was bowdlerized for our delicate American sensibilities.

I just went and looked at We Five on YouTube. Darned if it ain't a Rickenbacker. I should have known.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_f16t1JGHo&feature=related

Also, a fine live performance. Almost unheard of on American TV in those days.

Edited by - ed the bear on 10/06/2008 06:30:17
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2008 :  14:14:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We Five..nice sound there...never saw that performance...for some reason I always thoughtthey came from Australia ....always had them grouped with The Easybeats, and the Seekers..maybe because I always used to hear them in rotation on the radio....had thesingle on A&M..can't remember what the flip side was!...
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2008 :  14:21:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
john 9.."Barry Lyndon"..For me it's one of the graetest films ever made. Right, visually it's stunning. There's one shot that Kubrick has in there that makes you not only see the 18th but also feel it.
The scene shows an expanse of buidings, couples strolling and carriages moving through the scene. I usually stop the film at that point and just stare at the "painting".
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2008 :  23:31:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

john 9.."Barry Lyndon"..For me it's one of the graetest films ever made. Right, visually it's stunning. There's one shot that Kubrick has in there that makes you not only see the 18th but also feel it.
The scene shows an expanse of buidings, couples strolling and carriages moving through the scene. I usually stop the film at that point and just stare at the "painting".


Wow, haven't seen this one, but went online....great imagery. His scenes look like
the great masterpieces from the period. Guess I better check this one out, rocker & John9.

all o' god's children gotta have their freedom
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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2008 :  04:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rocker:
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can't remember what the flip side was!...


"Cast Your Fate to the Wind"

Just don't ask me what I had for lunch yesterday... no clue whatsoever.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2008 :  14:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heh heh..yer sharp....ok......flip of "A Well Respected Man"...on Reprise, eh?.........;-)....
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2008 :  14:17:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And speaking of music appreciation, maybe some of you have seen the Rolling Stone issue...(I guess some read that as well as Mojo or maybe not!)... They have the top 100 greatest guitar songs....
Chuck B's "Johnny B Goode" is #1..#2 was "Purple Haze"....#100 was "Vicarious" by Tool..maybe your favs are there...
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2008 :  16:41:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

And speaking of music appreciation, maybe some of you have seen the Rolling Stone issue...(I guess some read that as well as Mojo or maybe not!)... They have the top 100 greatest guitar songs....
Chuck B's "Johnny B Goode" is #1..#2 was "Purple Haze"....#100 was "Vicarious" by Tool..maybe your favs are there...


#3 "Crossroads" by Cream.........saw Clapton & Co. perform that in '68.....now that's
a moment! Some good ones on the list, rocker. (if we agreed with everything on the list.....
......well, that would be just boring)

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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2008 :  18:41:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"..if we agreed with everything on the list"...

I was looking at the list for some favorites of mine...Dire Straits was in there but the songs I enjoyed were those with the guitar licks from "Tunnel of Love" and "Telegraph Road"..........
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2008 :  17:00:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

"..if we agreed with everything on the list"...

I was looking at the list for some favorites of mine...Dire Straits was in there but the songs I enjoyed were those with the guitar licks from "Tunnel of Love" and "Telegraph Road"..........


Those are my favorite Dire Straits too, rocker. There are a number of bands I agree with
but would choose a different song......Satisfaction above Brown Sugar, but I'm choosing the
guitar line over the riff, I guess.

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John E
Fifth Love

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2008 :  00:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A defining moment for me (six years after my music jouney began) was buying "The Rock Machine Turns You On" in 1968. It opened up such a vista of interesting new sounds -Moby Grape, Spirit, Peanut Butter Conspiracy etc. (favourites like Bob Dylan, the Zombies and Byrds were also in there). Most especially though, it introduced me to Leonard Cohen with "Sisters of Mercy" and I've been a devotee ever since. 1968 was also the year that I bought "Alone Again Or" and I purchased "Forever Changes" the following year.

Love, John E
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2008 :  13:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so john where do you place Leonard the bard after all these years?
To me he seemed to be less in the limelight than say Dylan though his stature is arguably equal to or perhaps even higher than Dylan's with some.
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John E
Fifth Love

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2008 :  15:10:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Rocker,

Leonard's stature is definitely higher than Dylan's for me, even though I have all official recordings by both Leonard and Dylan. I've found Leonard's work to be consistently excellent, and Dylan's more erratic (though there is much greatness there). However, Leonard's music touches me on a deeper level,and the man himself commands more respect than Dylan. I've met Bob once (1990), and Leonard twice (1976 & 2007). Dylan was confrontational and pretty much told a few of us to f- off, while on both occasions Leonard was warm, courteous and attentive. Leonard also replied to four letters that I wrote to him in the Nnineties when I was researching an article on him. Leonard's currently doing a sell-out world tour (I'll be seeing him on Tuesday, and next month at O2), so I expect his stature to grow this year.

All the best, John E
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2008 :  16:44:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that's it's really great you wrote him and he replied. Some guys are aloof, you know? I'm not that familiar with his works..any suggestions on where I should start?
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2008 :  17:55:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John E

Hi Rocker,

Leonard's stature is definitely higher than Dylan's for me, even though I have all official recordings by both Leonard and Dylan. I've found Leonard's work to be consistently excellent, and Dylan's more erratic (though there is much greatness there). However, Leonard's music touches me on a deeper level,and the man himself commands more respect than Dylan. I've met Bob once (1990), and Leonard twice (1976 & 2007). Dylan was confrontational and pretty much told a few of us to f- off, while on both occasions Leonard was warm, courteous and attentive. Leonard also replied to four letters that I wrote to him in the Nnineties when I was researching an article on him. Leonard's currently doing a sell-out world tour (I'll be seeing him on Tuesday, and next month at O2), so I expect his stature to grow this year.

All the best, John E


John E, Dylan's kind of famous or infamous for his interviews....too bad you had a lousy
experience. I've always had the impression that Cohen is a gentle. caring soul.
He finally!! got inducted into the R & R Hall of Fame in 2008. Wikipedia has a good bio
of Leonard's life & music. Go there for discography & reviews/history of his LPs, rocker.

I'd go with 'Songs of Leonard Cohen', rocker, for one of the greatest debut albums ever.

What do you think, John E??
(I'm not much for compilations.....I like to get the feel for what was originally intended, you know.... song sequence is crucial to me & 'greatest hits' LPs can really get me peeved if not done right.)

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