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rocker
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 30/09/2008 :  16:04:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
67-68..pretty creative time eh?...To ed's groups I'll add Fever Tree and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Paul Butterfield, Rotary Connection, Sopwith Camel whatever. I think they played all those albums in rotation on the radio at the time! Like ELO....can't get'em out of my head!"...
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 30/09/2008 :  17:44:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

67-68..pretty creative time eh?...To ed's groups I'll add Fever Tree and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Paul Butterfield, Rotary Connection, Sopwith Camel whatever. I think they played all those albums in rotation on the radio at the time! Like ELO....can't get'em out of my head!"...

The first two Fever Tree are up there with my all-time favorite psych LPs, rocker.
Still have mine, too, that I bought way back then.
Headquarters by the Monkeys was pretty good too. Their first LP that they played all their instruments......contrary to the press smears of the day, they were quite good & well received
at live shows. Unlike their pop hits, they played pretty heavy power-pop style live. Peter Tork
was recruited by George Harrison to play on the Wonderwall LP. A talented bunch & they
attracted some of the greats on their show......once they gained more control.....Zappa, Tim
Buckley.

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rocker
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 01/10/2008 :  14:57:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lk..I have Wonderwall..didn't know about Tork on there..do u know which cut and what he's playing?...thx
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 01/10/2008 :  16:30:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

lk..I have Wonderwall..didn't know about Tork on there..do u know which cut and what he's playing?...thx

After leaving the Monkeys, he was recruited by Harrison to play banjo on Wonderwall.....
I guess wherever you hear a banjo. Tork was actually the only Monkey allowed to play on
a track from the first LP---Papa Gene's Blues. On later LPs (#3 onward) he played keyboards, banjo, bass & other instruments. I don't have Wonderwall...but it's somewhat common knowledge, at least in various writings about them.. Various Monkey members became friends with the Beatles while on tour in England & were given their proper respect as accomplished artists, by George & John especially.

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boombox
Old Love

United Kingdom
548 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2008 :  14:23:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

Has anyone gotten the 2008 Sundazed MONO 13th Floor Elevators (1st LP)??
Every review has given it five stars out of five, and is supposed to kick every other
release right out of the park......making the stereo version obsolete!!!

I better check it out.

Not got that one yet. To be honest, there have been so many versions of it over the years. I have the 8-track version too, which has subtle differences.

quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid


Have any of you in the UK or elsewhere heard of these 60's psych/prog.
bands ....from the UK. ......
Blossom Toes & East of Eden "Mercator Projected??
Just read they were quite good.


Both Blossom Toes albums are pretty good if you are into US influenced English psych, but nowhere in the same league as Kaleidoscope.

East of Eden were a great prog-folk band, a bit like Tull or even early BJH in some respects. Mercator has some nice lead violin playing on it. I keep meaning to put together for my own use the ultimate rock violin album with stuff on it by EoE, Pavlov's Dog, The Flock, Jefferson Airplane/Starship with Papa John Creach, It's A Beautiful Day and my favourite version of Paint It Black, done by Eric Burdon & the New Animals, which IMHO blows the original out of the water.

Nice to see some respect given the Monkees as a live band too - Tork and Papa Nez may have been the original musicians, but the others worked damn hard at their instruments so that they could indeed play live, as the odd live albums and bootlegs testify.

Edited by - boombox on 02/10/2008 14:26:54
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rocker
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  14:28:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thx lk for that monkee update..I'll check it out...
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2008 :  14:31:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and btw.. "I bought that book 1000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die". I think it's great to go in there and just pick out a recording. There are some things in there that I have to really check out. On de quest....
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  17:40:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love the Flock, still, & bought their first in 1969. Clive Davis "raided" John Goodman (violinist) of the Flock for John McLaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, which in effect destroyed The Flock. GOODMAN was considered equal in virtuosity with John M. He later played with bands---Private Music, Shadowfax, Dixie Dregs & is still playing today. Also scored Lily Tomlin's The Search For Signs of Intelligent Life In The Universe & is the featured violinist on numerous films , including Billy Crystal's Mr. Saturday Night.

By the way, if you're really into It's A Beautiful Day, like myself, the White Bird LP is very
different & BETTER (for me) on the first press label (1960's two eye Columbia label). Many tracks sound like completely different takes (Girl With No Eyes) & it is a more raw recording. I like it better. They must have rerecorded/remixed the whole LP when White Bird became a hit in 1971 (?). The first press is hard to find & no one seems to know this, but get it if you can...do you have it, boombox?

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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
1520 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2008 :  18:17:06  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

quote:
Originally posted by rocker

67-68..pretty creative time eh?...To ed's groups I'll add Fever Tree and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Paul Butterfield, Rotary Connection, Sopwith Camel whatever. I think they played all those albums in rotation on the radio at the time! Like ELO....can't get'em out of my head!"...

The first two Fever Tree are up there with my all-time favorite psych LPs, rocker.
Still have mine, too, that I bought way back then.
Headquarters by the Monkeys was pretty good too. Their first LP that they played all their instruments......contrary to the press smears of the day, they were quite good & well received
at live shows. Unlike their pop hits, they played pretty heavy power-pop style live. Peter Tork
was recruited by George Harrison to play on the Wonderwall LP. A talented bunch & they
attracted some of the greats on their show......once they gained more control.....Zappa, Tim
Buckley.

____________________________________________________________
As we live and breathe,
Somebody must believe.



I loved The Monkees (I prefer a Monkees album to a Beatles one anyday...mind you, I don't like The Beatles) The film, Head, is great
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  18:17:45  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

and btw.. "I bought that book 1000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die". I think it's great to go in there and just pick out a recording. There are some things in there that I have to really check out. On de quest....



But what if it suggests a recording by a band you have always hated?
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  19:26:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by caryne

quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

quote:
Originally posted by rocker

67-68..pretty creative time eh?...To ed's groups I'll add Fever Tree and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Paul Butterfield, Rotary Connection, Sopwith Camel whatever. I think they played all those albums in rotation on the radio at the time! Like ELO....can't get'em out of my head!"...

The first two Fever Tree are up there with my all-time favorite psych LPs, rocker.
Still have mine, too, that I bought way back then.
Headquarters by the Monkeys was pretty good too. Their first LP that they played all their instruments......contrary to the press smears of the day, they were quite good & well received
at live shows. Unlike their pop hits, they played pretty heavy power-pop style live. Peter Tork
was recruited by George Harrison to play on the Wonderwall LP. A talented bunch & they
attracted some of the greats on their show......once they gained more control.....Zappa, Tim
Buckley.

____________________________________________________________
As we live and breathe,
Somebody must believe.



I loved The Monkees (I prefer a Monkees album to a Beatles one anyday...mind you, I don't like The Beatles) The film, Head, is great


Head was quite a ground breaker...good music. I read that the title "Head" was picked
so that the promos for a sequel could read "From the people that gave you HEAD.

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boombox
Old Love

United Kingdom
548 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2008 :  00:41:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

I love the Flock, still, & bought their first in 1969. Clive Davis "raided" John Goodman (violinist) of the Flock for John McLaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, which in effect destroyed The Flock. GOODMAN was considered equal in virtuosity with John M. He later played with bands---Private Music, Shadowfax, Dixie Dregs & is still playing today. Also scored Lily Tomlin's The Search For Signs of Intelligent Life In The Universe & is the featured violinist on numerous films , including Billy Crystal's Mr. Saturday Night.

By the way, if you're really into It's A Beautiful Day, like myself, the White Bird LP is very
different & BETTER (for me) on the first press label (1960's two eye Columbia label). Many tracks sound like completely different takes (Girl With No Eyes) & it is a more raw recording. I like it better. They must have rerecorded/remixed the whole LP when White Bird became a hit in 1971 (?). The first press is hard to find & no one seems to know this, but get it if you can...do you have it, boombox?

____________________________________________________________
As we live and breathe,
Somebody must believe.



Never realised that the MO was where John Goodman went. I first heard the Flock over twenty years ago on The Rock Machine Turns You On compil. My mate then bought the Flock album soon after, so I got a copy off him.

As for IABD, my copy of the first album is a German CD edition I bought about 10 years ago - don't know which version they used for it.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2008 :  21:46:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by boombox

quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

I love the Flock, still, & bought their first in 1969. Clive Davis "raided" John Goodman (violinist) of the Flock for John McLaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, which in effect destroyed The Flock. GOODMAN was considered equal in virtuosity with John M. He later played with bands---Private Music, Shadowfax, Dixie Dregs & is still playing today. Also scored Lily Tomlin's The Search For Signs of Intelligent Life In The Universe & is the featured violinist on numerous films , including Billy Crystal's Mr. Saturday Night.

By the way, if you're really into It's A Beautiful Day, like myself, the White Bird LP is very
different & BETTER (for me) on the first press label (1960's two eye Columbia label). Many tracks sound like completely different takes (Girl With No Eyes) & it is a more raw recording. I like it better. They must have rerecorded/remixed the whole LP when White Bird became a hit in 1971 (?). The first press is hard to find & no one seems to know this, but get it if you can...do you have it, boombox?

____________________________________________________________
As we live and breathe,
Somebody must believe.



Never realised that the MO was where John Goodman went. I first heard the Flock over twenty years ago on The Rock Machine Turns You On compil. My mate then bought the Flock album soon after, so I got a copy off him.

As for IABD, my copy of the first album is a German CD edition I bought about 10 years ago - don't know which version they used for it.

It's one of those mixes that got lost....Its a Beautiful Day LP. It's pretty good. Pretty
rare, I suppose...right at the end of the two eye label era.

Any rare mixes that any of you all have? I've spoken of this before, so if you've heard it,
sorry.....
Hot Rocks Rolling Stones On November 18, 1971....an alternate take of "White Horses" and "Brown Sugar" were mistakenly pressed....ONE day only. "White Horses" is completely different...just Mick singing solo, no harmonies, accompanied by guitar & a funky tack piano...no lead guitar riff in the middle, just the tack piano. Sounds like a late night sit-in by the Stones at a smokey bar. Haven't played it for anyone that hasn't liked it better than the "hit". "Brown Sugar" is raw & loose, too, like it was recored in the same bar.

The only way to visually find this is to look at every copy you run across for the rest of your life ...on side FOUR only! in the trail-off will be scratched "Shelley 11-18-71". If it's on any other side & not side four, it's the regular mix. Last time I saw it for sale, ten tears ago, it went for $1,000 US. I'm guessing only several hundred were pressed. Picked mine up in a record shop bin for $10....not many dealers know about this either, so they're out there. My dealer friend had two in his collection of a dozen extras in his basement that he has for backlog.
He didn't know he had them until I told him! Pretty cool. By the way, it's only on the London (US) version.

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Edited by - lemonade kid on 06/10/2008 21:50:21
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2008 :  17:06:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of my All time favorite British psych bands would have to be TRAFFIC. (st, is best)

Any one else's favorite BRITISH psych band, or individual LP?
We all (mostly) have our fav US psych band here, I think1

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torben
Fifth Love

Denmark
328 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2008 :  17:25:32  Show Profile  Visit torben's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anything by Kaleidoscope. The UK band, not the one with David Lindley
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