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lemonade kid
Old Love
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 Posted - 03/08/2008 : 18:15:57
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Originally posted by bob f.
contrary to popular belief, " No Other", is not Gene Clark's last solo album. it is, " To Sides To Every Story", 1977, RSO records!
i have the lp:http://welcometothe13thfloor.blogspot.com/2007/11/gene-clark-two-sides-to-every-story.html
...what the world needs now...
No Other was middle career. "Two Sides To Every Story" is GREAT! ....but not his last. 1984's Firebyrd on Tacoma is
his last solo. (the name acknowledges former bandmates' association with Byrds & Firefall) I have it on vinyl, rare. He revisits "Mr Tambourine Man", a mellower version on piano, & revisits "Silver Raven" with a follow-up called "Blue Raven". A very mellow, soft psych kind of album.....Clark was starting to develop a new fan base with the paisley underground scene. A totally different cover on Tacoma than what is on the CD releases.
It's available on various CD releases around the net. But the vinyl is beautiful & a must-have for Gene Clark collectors.
His last duo release is the highly regarded "So Rebellious A Lover" with Carla Olson in 1986. He died in 1991 while working on a second release with Carla Olson (released in 1992), a year after his death.
I think "Silver Raven" is my all time favorite Gene Clark tune....beautiful.
By the way, you can get something like 30 unreleased, some never heard in the US before, live & studio mp3 tracks
.....free to download...some are pretty bad audio.......15 or so are fantastic!! "Crazy Ladies" is especially wonderful...
a live track with Roger M. on 12 string & vocal harmony, and Chris Hillman on mandolin!! ........at
http://www.geneclark.com/
trouble comin' everyday.......
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SignedRW
Fifth Love
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Posted - 04/08/2008 : 19:10:50
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The posthumous Gene Clark with Carla Olson duo release was not really
material that Gene and Carla had been working on for a second album,
but rather, a live show from McCabe's in Santa Monica, from 1990. It
is entitled "Silhouetted In Light," and was finally released in the
U.S. just last September, by Collector's Choice, as part of a two CD
set that also features Gene and Carla on the syndicated radio program,
"Live At Mountain Stage." It's well worth owning, absolutely. There
is also a fairly substantial amount of strong quality unreleased Gene material, both studio and live tracks, circulating among collectors and especially dedicated fans, the eventual official release of which is not out of the realm of possibilty. Meanwhile, if you are a fan
yourself, pick up the Gene Clark and Carla Olson Live in Concert set,
and John Einarson's well-written Gene biography, "Mr. Tambourine Man." |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 04/08/2008 : 20:03:18
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Originally posted by Signed RW
The posthumous Gene Clark with Carla Olson duo release was not really
material that Gene and Carla had been working on for a second album,
but rather, a live show from McCabe's in Santa Monica, from 1990. It
is entitled "Silhouetted In Light," and was finally released in the
U.S. just last September, by Collector's Choice, as part of a two CD
set that also features Gene and Carla on the syndicated radio program,
"Live At Mountain Stage." It's well worth owning, absolutely. There
is also a fairly substantial amount of strong quality unreleased Gene material, both studio and live tracks, circulating among collectors and especially dedicated fans, the eventual official release of which is not out of the realm of possibilty. Meanwhile, if you are a fan
yourself, pick up the Gene Clark and Carla Olson Live in Concert set,
and John Einarson's well-written Gene biography, "Mr. Tambourine Man."
Right about the live set, RW....they never got far into recording a second LP. The live "Silhouetted...." was originally released on CD in 1992 on Edsel & 1993 on Demon -- cat # 710 (those were European-only releases, I'm thinking)
trouble comin' everyday.......
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 05/08/2008 : 17:09:46
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Originally posted by Signed RW
The posthumous Gene Clark with Carla Olson duo release was not really
material that Gene and Carla had been working on for a second album,
but rather, a live show from McCabe's in Santa Monica, from 1990. It
is entitled "Silhouetted In Light," and was finally released in the
U.S. just last September, by Collector's Choice, as part of a two CD
set that also features Gene and Carla on the syndicated radio program,
"Live At Mountain Stage." It's well worth owning, absolutely. There
is also a fairly substantial amount of strong quality unreleased Gene material, both studio and live tracks, circulating among collectors and especially dedicated fans, the eventual official release of which is not out of the realm of possibilty. Meanwhile, if you are a fan
yourself, pick up the Gene Clark and Carla Olson Live in Concert set,
and John Einarson's well-written Gene biography, "Mr. Tambourine Man."
RW....did you ever have the chance to work on any Gene Clark recordings or releases? Your stories about Fred Neil & Ed Cassidy were so great. Just wondered.
trouble comin' everyday.......
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SignedRW
Fifth Love
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Posted - 05/08/2008 : 18:31:50
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I never had the chance to work on any Gene projects, though I'd have loved to have done so. I did meet him a few times through Carla, who
has been a friend since Textones days, and sadly, had Gene scheduled to come in to the radio station I was programming in Santa Barbara for an on-air interview at the time of his death. I'll never forget
the voice mail left for me that day by Saul Davis, Gene's former
manager; it just said, "We lost Gene today." I remember thinking,
"Okay, I'm sure I'm just misinterpreting this; this can't mean what
it sounds like it means..." Only a couple of months earlier, I had
shared a small cocktail table for four with Gene upstairs at the Whisky for a Roger McGuinn show that was being broadcast world-wide,
via satellite. This show took place barely a few weeks after Gene's
multiple night engagement at the Cinegrill Lounge, in the Hollywood
Roosevelt Hotel, which were Gene's final ever live performances. At
the Cinegrill shows, which I attended, although there were a number
of musical high points, Gene looked really, really unhealthy, and
clearly was drinking more than was good for either him or for his
performance. I was shocked when he joined us at our table at the
Whisky for the McGuinn show, because he looked like a completely
different person; clear-eyed, clear of speech, sharp and articulate,
drinking only Seven-Up, he complimented Roger McGuinn throughout the
set, remarking on what an amazing musician he was, and always had
been, and saying that Roger had always been the real "heart" of the
Byrds. Gene stated that evening that he was hoping that Roger would
call him on-stage for the encore. I hoped that he would too, but I'd
already been informed that the "special guest" who would join McGuinn
onstage that night was to be Stevie Nicks. Gene did an admirable job
of masking his disappointment, remaining very cool and complimentary
towards Roger's performance (which was, by the way, excellent). It
just would have been a little more excellent with Gene Clark up there
with him, even if just for a single song. There is a description of this in the most recent edition of John Rogan's Byrds book, which all
self-respecting Byrds fans should own. There is also a moment on the
"Silhouetted In Light" CD, the live McCabe's show, where Carla Olson
spots me in the audience, and dedicates my all-time favorite Gene
Byrds song; (aside from "Eight Miles High," a Gene song to which both
Crosby and McGuinn contributed enough that they earned co-authorship
credits)"Set You Free This Time," which really was another of those amazingly cool moments. Hey, it's on the CD, for posterity. Chris Hillman has described Gene Clark as having been "the real poet" of
the Byrds, and Chris, whom I hold in extremely high regard both as a musician and a person, ought to know. Gene Clark, for my money, was always every bit as much the "heart" of the Byrds as was any other
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 05/08/2008 : 20:21:37
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Thanks so much, RW, for the post. Gene's music is still a major part of my musical listening time.
Your having brought up 'Two Sides To Every Story" gave me another listen yesterday. A very nice, if
obscure to most, LP.
His life was so full of music & so full of heartache & tragedy. His music gives me joy, & tears, with each listen.
"We all need a fix......" (No Other). Gene's music helps to give me a "fix" on the horizon...a direction.
It's good to hear that Gene "reconciled" with Roger...what about the rest of the Byrds?
trouble comin' everyday.......
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ed the bear
Fourth Love
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 05:16:55
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Just want to second lemonade kid, and thank RW for that anecdote. The Rogan book is great, but it's always good to hear from primary sources, too. "Set You Free This Time" is also my favorite "Gene-only" Byrds song. When I bought that album, my musical tastes were still largely unformed but that song touched a chord in my 15-year old soul that still resonates all of these occasionally difficult years later.
Second favorite was "The World Turns All Around Her." 'Scuse me now, I've got a CD to put on.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 16:49:31
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Speaking of Gene Clark......I'm now looking for gene's last material with Carla on vinyl.
my guy in Maine thinks he can find them.
And, Rocker, I misspoke about the 20 or 30,000 vinyl LPs that Mike has in Maine. It's over
100,000. Just read a little write-up in the York County paper about his hidden gem of
a shop. Business ain't so good in depressed Sanford, but he just keeps going out &
finding more vinyl every week.......re: "Too Old To Rock" subject,
I'm hoping we never are!!
I'm getting a big package via post from him this weekend....can't wait. I'll let you all know
what gems I get!!!!
trouble comin' everyday.......
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 18:42:53
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| It's good to see Gene Clark isn't forgotten. As for his career, you wonder what would've happened if he didn't join the Byrds. Would he have probably found his musical way anyway beacsue he had great talent as a songwriter. Clark apparently just wasn't the type of guy who could stand the limelight the Byrds found themselves in with all that early success, a success that he certainly had a hand in. Some artists just have to go and make another way. |
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 18:51:49
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| RW.. I too recall the news when I heard Gene Clark died. Now I'm not sure at timings but his death surrounds others who were formerly in the band like Mike Clark and Gram Parsons. Looking back at the time, I remembered only happy times before all that happened. I don't know. When the personnel in the Byrds stared to pass on, well life to me was a little different if you get the drift. Because I liked the group so much I guess it got me connected in a way with all the bandmembers. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 19:57:23
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Originally posted by rocker
RW.. I too recall the news when I heard Gene Clark died. Now I'm not sure at timings but his death surrounds others who were formerly in the band like Mike Clark and Gram Parsons. Looking back at the time, I remembered only happy times before all that happened. I don't know. When the personnel in the Byrds stared to pass on, well life to me was a little different if you get the drift. Because I liked the group so much I guess it got me connected in a way with all the bandmembers.
I think it's the same with all the bands we grew up with. Lennon was especially hard news & Harrison, too.
Lately we've lost some good ones..........Dan Fogelberg, John Stewart....RIP. Haven't heard how Steve Stills
is doing with his cancer. Anyone?
trouble comin' everyday.......
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 15:19:11
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You know thwe topic I wanted to pick up on is really "music appreciation" so I'm not going to start another thread. But I wanted to ask from all of you (since you all have keen musical taste!..;-)...) what is your "lost" gem that isn't up on the record radar so to speak but should be considered up there with the "great" records and we know what they are. I've found that there are "revelations" in what gets chosen. And from this we can certainly can get new tunes to check out for all of us.
Rocker & anyone interested in great psych, check out the band Bubble Puppy's LP, "A Gathering Of Promises". 
"Hot Smoke And Sassafras" got some air play but the LP didn't sell. It's out on 180 gram vinyl & is fantatastic!!!
Listen to 'Hot Smoke...." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkbafnjpxV4
trouble comin' everyday.......
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 15:57:19
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I see your friend really keeps you up to date on those "forgotten" gems...real fine track....Last week I was in a few old record stores in Brooklyn. Didn't have much time but saw some interesting stuff I haven't heard in years...came across "Soft Machine"...remember them? I'll be going back so I'll let you all know what I see there.
Now on current stuff, I have to admit I'm perhaps not as aware as some here on contemporary rock. But I got the new record by Coldplay "Viva la Vida". It's interesting that to me it's winding up like FC where the first few listenings had me not knowing what to make of the album but now I'm enthralled by it. I find it real sparkling, melodic and atmospheric rock. I think it's their best record so far. I'll be listening to this one for a long time. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 18:53:04
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Originally posted by rocker
I see your friend really keeps you up to date on those "forgotten" gems...real fine track....Last week I was in a few old record stores in Brooklyn. Didn't have much time but saw some interesting stuff I haven't heard in years...came across "Soft Machine"...remember them? I'll be going back so I'll let you all know what I see there.
Now on current stuff, I have to admit I'm perhaps not as aware as some here on contemporary rock. But I got the new record by Coldplay "Viva la Vida". It's interesting that to me it's winding up like FC where the first few listenings had me not knowing what to make of the album but now I'm enthralled by it. I find it real sparkling, melodic and atmospheric rock. I think it's their best record so far. I'll be listening to this one for a long time.
He reminds of a lot I've forgotten. I do a lot of searching on the net & read LP price guides (Goldmine had a great one back in the 90's that was very informative of the history of the great LPs like Bubble Puppy. I've actually educated my friend-with-the-100,00 LPs. He collects anything that looks interesting but can't always listen, so I tell him to give certain
ones a listen that are good. ...and he's turned me on to many too.
Soft Machine had some good ones alright!
Good luck on the Brooklyn trip. I'm getting a bunch of Michael Nesmith vinyl including THE PRISON box set, & a bunch of other psych stuff (AND LoVE Story!).
I'll let you know what I get...my best group of finds yet....at one haul.
And thanks to rocker & bobf for getting me back into Nesmith!!! I'm getting maybe 8 or 9 LPs & a Dot 45 rpm.
trouble comin' everyday.......
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bob f.
Old Love
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Posted - 09/08/2008 : 02:49:09
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I have the Bubble Puppy cd. it's rockin' cool!
i have a list of lps i want, and always check the bins at my favorite used record stores, and usually not find them, but discover vinyl jems i buy. i guess the quest is part of the fun for me. usually, i end up coming home with a care package of good stuff. there are still many lps i want , not yet on cd anywhere, and sometimes, i find the lp, or in most cases, the compilation cd is available, but i rather have the exact release recording of each lp.
my Vindicator i found for about 5 dollahs in good shape, and one of my favorites is Phil Spector's Christmas Album in very good condition! it's the STEREO version of its mono CD counterpart. that's the way to enjoy it: in STEREO! it's not in cd stereo yet, i think,,
but maybe somewhere( cd recorded from lp does not count!)i mean stereo recorded from the master tapes for cd. cheers!blab blab....
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