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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23/07/2005 : 11:51:45
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Originally posted by Judith
Have to agree with you Paddieu on the issue that the band allegedly played as if they didn't care. Having seen them 4 times now, have always been impressed by how much they give, and the show at Frome was exceptional-they couldn't have given more - would have paid more than a mere £14 to see them. And it's great to see that 99.5% of those who post here had similar postive experience. Think that says it all!
Judith Anne
Exact;y Judith, I have never seen the band give anything less than 101% and I just don't be;lieve they did in Germany or anywhere on the recent tour.
Must also agree with Cheryl that Mike has taken more crap from people than anyone could realise (naming no names) and I think the occasional rant is only to be expected, I'm amazed he manages to stay so calm to be honest |
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thorntree8
First Love
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Posted - 23/07/2005 : 22:44:44
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I too was shocked to see the video of the Spain gig. I saw Love +Arthur in February 2004 in Aylesbury and they were truly magnificent. It was my first love gig and actually one of the best gigs ive ever been to. As a Love fan from the 60s/70s it was a memorable occasion. However I saw them again in Milton Keynes this year and without Arthur it just was not the same although they played very well.I really do wonder what the future holds because without trying to be negative all the material played has Arthurs imprint on it and Love without Arthur is like the Grateful Dead without Jerry Garcia!!
I greatly respect the rest of the band for soldiering on in very trying circumstances but they too must be contemplating a future without the inspirational figurehead who wrote much of the music and whether they can convince themselves and the public that they are anything more than a tribute band.
My real hope is that Arthur can somehow get himself together [and is it drugs or booze?] and that Love can continue as it/they should without these doubts and question marks hanging over them.
Incidentally I am sure that she means well but Caryn's inability to accept criticism of the band without Arthur will actually harm them more than do good. You justbhave to be realistic. |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 24/07/2005 : 02:59:05
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| thorntree..as I have said, your name says it all, but, I am quite happy to accept genuine criticism. it's just comments along the lines of 'Rusty's suit was crap' or 'the played as if they didn't care' are not genuine criticism it is just petty nit picking..there is a difference..you 'thorntree' obviously have some kind of a problem with me..just be honest instead of trying to dress it up as something else. |
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jimmyboy
Fourth Love
USA
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Posted - 24/07/2005 : 09:18:42
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| I can understand where Mr.Thorn is coming from but I thought The Dead without Jerry were pretty damn good these last 2 tours. It took 3 or for new musicians to do the job, but I was knocked out! The Love Band with John Echols could do the same..Just keep that music playing is what I;m trying to focus on these dreary days.... |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 24/07/2005 : 11:47:16
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| Serioiusly, if I thought the band without Arthur weren't any good I would say, luckily I know they are a great live act and I'm really looking forward to hear some brand new material..and some old songs that havnh't been played for a long time. Kind of sums it up really. |
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Lulf
First Love
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Posted - 24/07/2005 : 19:46:33
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Originally posted by caryne
thorntree..as I have said, your name says it all, but, I am quite happy to accept genuine criticism. it's just comments along the lines of 'Rusty's suit was crap' or 'the played as if they didn't care' are not genuine criticism it is just petty nit picking..there is a difference..you 'thorntree' obviously have some kind of a problem with me..just be honest instead of trying to dress it up as something else.
My god, i would never have thought that my short remark on how Rusty dresses would gain so much response. Moreover because i said it didn't matter for the quality of the show. Anyway, what is 'genuine criticism' according to you, and why should we accept your standards? When you are a fan of a band it is clear that you do not like it if anyone says their gig wasn't good. But hey; you weren't there, and you don't know me, so who are you to say that i know nothing about music and that every gig of love is so damn good? I think that with my remarks on the Herzberg gig, i have given a pretty clear view on the matter. They played like they didn't care and i missed Arthur. That's all. A band cannot give non-stop topgigs. The only thing i wanted to point out was, that this particular gig wasn't as smashing as i was used to from previous Love-gigs (wit Arthur).
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johnnylovejoy
Second Love
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Posted - 25/07/2005 : 01:03:22
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WOW! What a great debate Me thinks me has the trump card.
a twenty four track tape of the show in Germany exists! audio
and video. The venue has offered it to us for a fee (naturally.) If we can make a deal to procure said tape: One can then judge for themselves
ps: I will post my thoughts,on this strange episode as soon as I
recover my bearings, but for now I would like to express my sincere
gratitude for the OVERWHELMING and POSITIVE SUPPORT. |
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hvy2nz
First Love
USA
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Posted - 25/07/2005 : 01:18:08
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or how about I substitute my '04 coach house md recording?
just kidding : )
what the **** arthur, please i said please come back to earth.
can't you feel the love here?
I didnt know this board had a f u c k deleter |
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johnnylovejoy
Second Love
38 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2005 : 04:53:25
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I triple dare you |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2005 : 09:31:18
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Originally posted by johnnylovejoy
WOW! What a great debate Me thinks me has the trump card.
a twenty four track tape of the show in Germany exists! audio
and video. The venue has offered it to us for a fee (naturally.) If we can make a deal to procure said tape: One can then judge for themselves
ps: I will post my thoughts,on this strange episode as soon as I
recover my bearings, but for now I would like to express my sincere
gratitude for the OVERWHELMING and POSITIVE SUPPORT.
Cheers, Johnny, now that will be worth listening to.
Lulf, you can hate a gig as much as you like, it's a free world...what you seem unable to understand is (a) the comment about how Rusty dresses is just inappropriate and (b) that band have never once played like they 'didn't care', if they didn't care they wouldn't have come on a European tour and lost themselves a fortune...they came because they do bloody care! I think you must realise that is why your comments have attracted so many responses, it was not, merely, the fact that you didn't enjoy the gig...that's your opinion and is as valid to you as anyone's. |
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Fred in Bed
Third Love
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2005 : 14:04:06
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I think everybody should just be cool about this, including Mike.
You can't please everybody all of the time and it's all subjective. If someone doesn't rate a performance there's no harm in being honest about it. Sure, they can be wrong in their assessments such as the band not caring, but as as long as they present them in an openly subjective rather than dogmatic way, I don't see that as a problem. They can even present their opinions as to whether sartorial presentation is important or not. And everyone has the right to disagree with them. But everybody should respect each other's opinions at the same time and not take them too personally. 
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ocfan
Fourth Love
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2005 : 01:29:45
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Still want to dress Rusty up in kohl and glitter. Think it would have solved the whole problem. lol
P.S. Both the HOB in Anaheim and Hollywood were great. Hollywood because of the strings and horns and Arthurs sobriety. Anaheim because with the band as awesome as they were, I didn't even miss the strings.
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jazmaan
Fifth Love
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2005 : 03:54:57
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| Yes House of Blues Anaheim was surprisingly good. Arthur seemed on his best behavior for the Disneyland tourists! |
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jimmyboy
Fourth Love
USA
234 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2005 : 04:54:54
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What a night that was!! I drove down from San Francisco the day before the Anaheim House of Blues show and parked my rental car in the hotel parking lot in Hollywood. Next afternoon went to
get the car discovered it has been stolen! I was freaked and wasn't going to go to the concert (25 miles south) but the cops who took the report said I ought to try and make it. I called the car rentalc who gave me another car (when renting a car ALWAYS GET THE INSURANCE!!)..It was pouring rain and the traffic was hell and I didnt realize that the H O B was inside Disneyland!!I got there a little late but it was a KILLER SHOW!! |
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markk
Old Love
USA
803 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2005 : 20:51:42
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| I would have done the same Jimmyboy |
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