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loveundpeaceGünther
First Love
Netherlands
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 Posted - 17/07/2005 : 19:43:10
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I'm very sorry to say that the gig that the band played at the Burg Herzberg festival was really bad, and definitely not worth travelling 500 kilometers (although the rest of the festival compensated somewhat).
I've seen them twice before, in 2002 and 2003, and that were probably the best shows I've ever seen. But this one?
The singer sings the lyrics right. Hurrah. But where is the soul? These guys really looked like they didn't give a damn about the songs they were playing.
A huge disappointment. |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2005 : 20:46:20
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| Funny, out of dozens of people who have seen this band over the last few weeks, all raving, there's always one...you are, of course, entitled to your opinion but I suggest that your idea of 'soul' may be different from most. What kind of music do you normally go and watch? I would be very interested to know. |
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Lulf
First Love
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Posted - 17/07/2005 : 21:05:10
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I have to say I agree with Gunther. The band is nothing more then Arthur Lee's backing band, and it has nothing to do with the 'original' Love. The gig in Germany thus, was like watching Elvis' session band without the voice and charisma of Elvis; Rather worthless.
The singer sang like it was all work and no fun for him, and he was dressed like he just came home from his day-job at some office. Without Arthur the band has lost its heart and soul, therefore watching Love without Arthur Lee is watching a random cover/tribute band playing songs of a band that no longer exists. I do not say I don't like tribute bands, but it is just not the real thing.
Maybe the band wasn't in as good as a shape as they were at the gigs all the raving enthusiasts saw or whatever, but this particular gig was, i hate to say it because i love the music, worthless. |
Edited by - Lulf on 17/07/2005 21:10:45 |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2005 : 22:43:08
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OK, I have to say this..two 'brand new posters', two complaints....why am I just a little suspicious
As for how Rusty dresses..do you care about the about music or are you a fashion correspondent? |
Edited by - caryne on 18/07/2005 08:34:30 |
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Lulf
First Love
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Posted - 17/07/2005 : 23:27:11
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That remark about Rusty's clothing is not important, it still is ridiculous for a lead singer of a rock band, but I just mentioned it 'on the side'.
But does the fact that I am a new poster make me an untrue fan, music hater or somebody who does not know '**** all' about bands and gigs? I do not think so. I don't want to make this discussion a personal dispute, but the fact that you have made 372 posts and i have made 2 does not make you a 'better' Love fan or a more respectable connoisseur of music.
Make no mistakes: I am not complaining about Love or its musical qualities, maby i have to say it again so you'll understand; I love the music, I know the music, I just do not think the gig without Arthur was all that good. I felt that I was not watching a Love gig, but a gig of a band containg guys who weren't even born when Forever Changes came out, imitating Love. I'm sorry if my opinion offends you in any way, but i felt and still feel that Love without Arthur Lee is of arguable quality.
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Alex
First Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2005 : 23:31:43
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I've seen Love both with Arthur and on this tour twice without Arthur. I've seen them play to packed out audiences and to next to nobody (not anything to do with the band I have to add, this being one of the most contentious forums I've ever encountered) and every time the guys have been nothing but professional and totally up for it. We have all seen bands that really didn't give a ****, and tribute bands that trade on knocking out a few well known hits, and there is no comparison.
Just go to the gigs, listen to the music and keep the pseudo-politics of Arthur's no-show out of it. I suspect most folks around here are feeling rather priviledged to have heard the current set, a very different one to any I've heard them play with Arthur around, and Johnny Echolls' top guitar playing.
Alex
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loveundpeaceGünther
First Love
Netherlands
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 00:21:09
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Originally posted by caryne
Funny, out of dozens of people who have seen this band over the last few weeks, all raving, there's always one...
I travelled from Utrecht in Holland to Kassel in Germany because that's where Love's only gig in mainland Europe was. I wouldn't do that if the previous gigs of Love hadn't blown my mind. Because of this, my expectations were sky-high. I knew that Arthur Lee wouldn't be there (although it was rather strange that they told the audience that he missed his plane), but went anyway, partly because of previous postings on this board.
I just want to stress that I'm not the president of some kind of anti-Love organisation, but a disappointed fan. Maybe the difference with the shows in Britain was that most of the audience on this festival weren't there because of Love and that they performed in broad daylight. Still, again, I am disappointed (and I'm not Lulf. Anyone else seen the Herzberg gig?).
I don't care if someone I don't know says that I don't know what I'm talking about, I just saw what I saw. |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 00:27:41
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Just have to say, all new posters are very welcome here..I just find it very strange when two 'new posters' both appear the same day saying more or less the same thing...that's when I start to find it all a little suspicious.
And, I am still bemused as to why Rusty's clothes are 'ridiculous'for the singer of a rock band..how should he dress???
I didn't see the band at the gig you say you went to, but like many other people I have seen them over the last week and seen a 'Love' gig like no other. They don't have Arthur it's true, but that's immaterial, the gigs have been stunning and, sad to say it, to me at least, Arthur has not been missed. I don't know how many times you have seen 'Love' over the years but, just lately, Arthur has not, exactly, been at his best and, to be honest, you really wouldn't want to see a show with him now.
Finally, I find it strange that you compare the number of posts I have made with the number you have made, it's not relevant but, for some reason, you see fit to mention it. I never said, or even, believe, that anyone is a 'better' Love fan than anyone else...so don't see why you felt the need to bring it up? |
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SteveLB
First Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 00:31:53
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I have my own feeling about the current incarnation of Love. They may or may not agree with the opinions of the regular posters on this message board. However, if I do choose to say what I think I hope I will be treated with a little more respect than our recent visitors were given.
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 00:32:52
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| By the way, did you not have Johnny Echols in Germany? I only ask because of the comment about people who weren't even born (actually I think most of the band were born, but that's hardly important)imitating 'Love'. |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 00:56:01
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Originally posted by SteveLB
I have my own feeling about the current incarnation of Love. They may or may not agree with the opinions of the regular posters on this message board. However, if I do choose to say what I think I hope I will be treated with a little more respect than our recent visitors were given.
Steve
Steve, I'm sure all opinions are open to debate and would be, honestly, interested in yours, especially if you have seen 'Love' on the most current tour.
Yep, maybe my posts havn't been 'repsectful' but, I have to admit when someone makes daft comments about the fact that Rusty is not dressed in the right way then I do have to wonder what that person is talking about..sorry, but I have never thought a person's dress was important to how they are as a musican and seriously wonder about anyone who does.
Also, as there have been some posts of 'dubioius origin' on this board lately, I also cannot help but wonder when two almost identical posts turn up so close to each other...even the most innocent of people would find this a little unusual.
If these two 'new'posters are genuine, disgruntled fans then I am sorry that they didn't enjoy themselves but have to say, if they are, as they say, fans of 'Love's' music then, I am afraid, they may have a long wait if they expect to see it with Arthur again, in the near future. |
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bigrubberglove
Fourth Love
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 02:32:15
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Welcome new members!
I am disappointed to hear you were let down by the show. Who am I to tell you what you should feel? Especially since I was not at the show.
I am sorry that some people are giving you a hard time for not having the "right ideas" about what you are supposed to feel.
Just so you know, most of the people on this board DO tolerate differing opinions and don't look suspiciously upon new members.
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LarryNYC
Fifth Love
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 07:24:34
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| Couldn't wait to jump in again eh brg ? One day you and Caryne will agree on something, though I'm not holding my breath lol. |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 08:31:50
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Nobody said anything about not 'tolerating' differences of opinions, every genuine 'Love' fan is very welcome here. However, I know for a fact that there has been a lot of 'mischief making' on this board recently and when two 'new posters', both saying the same thing, appear within a very short time it does make me wonder, especially with the really odd comments about how a singer should dress.
If these people are genuine I am sorry to have offended them, if they are not, well, they know what they can do. |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 08:37:36
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Originally posted by LarryNYC
Couldn't wait to jump in again eh brg ? One day you and Caryne will agree on something, though I'm not holding my breath lol.
Larry, there's always someone who likes to contradict on every board...if I was to say 'Bigrubberglove was the most intelligent and insightful poster on this board' he would probably disagree, I think most people know what's going on, one way or another |
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Love
First Love
United Kingdom
14 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 08:51:04
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Oh dear!
I am quite a new Member myself, but have no problem with Caryne's comments. Whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion (otherwise why have such a website?) I think we have all become highly sensitive when any criticism is aimed at the Band, under what have been very difficult circumstances for them without Arthur.
I saw Love with Arthur for the fist time at the Royal Festival Hall, where they did Forever changes with the full orchestra and I was hooked! Having seen them many times since with Arthur, without the orchestra and without Arthur, all the shows have been different but, I have NEVER been disappointed.
Do I look at what they are wearing and then go on a website to criticise? Do I hell! I am there to listen to the Band and enjoy the show. Will I have to start dressing up in the future in case someone out there posts something on the website about how the audience were dressed?
Lets just all concentrate on the music.......Please? |
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