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lemonade kid
Old Love
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 Posted - 21/09/2011 : 20:23:11
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In my top 3 artists of all time. The reissue and commemorative release of Lumpy Gravy & We're Only In It For the Money is a MUST HAVE!
Lumpy Money
The Lumpy Money Project/Object is an album by Frank Zappa. The album commemorates the 40th anniversary of both Zappa's first solo album, Lumpy Gravy (originally planned to be released in late 1967, but not available until May 1968), and his 1968 record We're Only in It for the Money with The Mothers of Invention. It is a 3-CD set, and is official release #85 and second in the series of 40th anniversary of Frank Zappa Audio Documentaries (with MOFO released in December 2006 celebrating Freak Out! being the first).
Disc One
Lumpy Gravy (Primordial). Frank Zappas original mono edit for Capitol Records. Original tracking sessions at Capitol Studios, Produced by Nick Venet
1. I Sink Trap 2:45
2. II Gum Joy 3:44
3. III Up & Down 1:52
4. IV Local Butcher 2:36
5. V Gypsy Airs 1:41
6. VI Hunchy Punchy 2:06
7. VII Foamy Soaky 2:34
8. VIII Lets Eat Out 1:49
9. IX Teen-Age Grand Finale 3:30
Were Only In It For The Money 1968 Original mono mix, Produced by Frank Zappa.
10. Are You Hung Up? 1:26
11. Who Needs The Peace Corps? 2:32
12. Concentration Moon 2:22
13. Mom & Dad 2:16
14. Telephone Conversation :49
15. Bow Tie Daddy :33
16. Harry, Youre A Beast 1:21
17. Whats The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? 1:02
18. Absolutely Free 3:26
19. Flower Punk 3:03
20. Hot Poop :26
21. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music 2:03
22. Lets Make The Water Turn Black 1:58
23. The Idiot Bastard Son 3:22
24. Lonely Little Girl 1:10
25. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance 1:34
26. Whats The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? (Reprise) :58
27. Mother People 2:31
28. The Chrome Plated Megaphone Of Destiny 6:23
Disc Two
Lumpy Gravy. 1984 UMRK Remix (stereo)
1. Lumpy Gravy - Part One 15:57
2. Lumpy Gravy - Part Two 17:15
Were Only In It For The Money. 1984 UMRK Remix (stereo)
3. Are You Hung Up? 1:30
4. Who Needs The Peace Corps? 2:35
5. Concentration Moon 2:17
6. Mom & Dad 2:16
7. Telephone Conversation :49
8. Bow Tie Daddy :33
9. Harry, Youre A Beast 1:22
10. Whats The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? 1:03
11. Absolutely Free 3:28
12. Flower Punk 3:04
13. Hot Poop :29
14. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music 2:03
15. Lets Make The Water Turn Black 1:45
16. The Idiot Bastard Son 3:17
17. Lonely Little Girl 1:12
18. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance 1:35
19. Whats The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? (Reprise) :57
20. Mother People 2:31
21. The Chrome Plated Megaphone Of Destiny 6:26
Disc Three
1. How Did That Get In Here? 25:01
2. Lumpy Gravy "Shuffle" :30
3. Dense Slight 1:42
4. Unit 3A, Take 3 2:24
5. Unit 2, Take 9 1:10
6. Section 8, Take 22 2:39
7. "My Favorite Album" :59
8. Unit 9 :41
9. N. Double A, AA :55
10. Theme From Lumpy Gravy 1:56
11. "What The ****s Wrong With Her?" 1:07
12. Intelligent Design 1:11
13. Lonely Little Girl (Original Composition - Take 24) 3:35
14. "That Problem With Absolutely Free" :30
15. Absolutely Free (Instrumental) 3:59
16. Harry, Youre A Beast (Instrumental) 1:16
17. Whats The Ugliest Part of Your Body? (Reprise/Instrumental) 2:01
18. Creationism 1:11
19. Idiot Bastard Snoop :47
20. The Idiot Bastard Son (Instrumental) 2:48
21. "Whats Happening Of The Universe" 1:37
22. "The World Will Be A Far Happier Place" :21 (Eric Clapton dialogue excerpt)
23. Lonely Little Girl (Instrumental) 1:26
24. Mom & Dad (Instrumental) 2:16
25. Who Needs The Peace Corps? (Instrumental) 2:51
26. "Really Little Voice" 2:28
27. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance (Instrumental) 1:24
28. Lonely Little Girl - The Single 2:45
29. "In Conclusion" :25 (Eric Clapton dialogue excerpt)
Some very cool originally edited stuff in this collection.
GET IT!
What's your favorite Mothers Of Invention/Mothers/Zappa album or song?
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Dukie
Fifth Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/09/2011 : 20:32:20
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| This is difficult to get in the UK, and also quite expensive... but I would like to hear it. (I saw The Mothers at the Royal Albert Hall the night before the Blind Faith concert in Hyde Park). |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 20:41:51
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Originally posted by Dukie
This is difficult to get in the UK, and also quite expensive... but I would like to hear it. (I saw The Mothers at the Royal Albert Hall the night before the Blind Faith concert in Hyde Park).
I will get it to you Dukie!
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/09/2011 : 20:49:07
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I love everything down to Hot Rats and Burnt Weeny Sandwich in 1969 and I would probably nominate those two for their magnificent instrumental music. I think they are the albums which capitalise best on the individual talents of the band members...especially Ian Underwood on piano.
I enjoyed less the the period when you effectively had a merger between The Mothers and The Turtles in around 1970-71. (Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan were superb singers, but to me that phase descended into self-parody). But then of course it was back to proper music in 1972 with Waka Jawaka. And I really did love the more classical focus that Frank's music had towards the end of his life
I shall certainly look out for that Lumpy Money item, LK and Dukie...I can honestly say that I've never seen any quite like it before! In the meantime:
"The present day composer refueses to die".....Edgar Varese  |
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John9
Old Love
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Posted - 21/09/2011 : 20:59:47
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Here's an example of what I mean about those late 60s, largely instrumental albums. This short track is entitled Aybe Sea....and just listen to Ian's wonderful piano that really gets going two thirds of the way through. Ian Underwood was a classically trained musician:
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 21:02:12
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Originally posted by John9
"The present day composer refuses to die".....Edgar Varese
I still have my original vinyl albums. I believe that great quote is inside both FREAL OUT! & Absolutely Free. I always regret not sending in for the Freak map of LA and the Libretto offered for free...just send a brown paper bag with a dollar inside.
For those who wish to see the full Libretto here it is...
http://jakeviator.com/wordpress/?p=64
They go for quite a bit now, but I wouldn't care about the value, just the memories! I figured it was a joke or I would have sent for them!!
Now I can print this and place it lovingly inside my gatefold album!
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Edited by - lemonade kid on 21/09/2011 21:08:30 |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 22:06:52
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From the interview...is this is valid today as ever?!! you know it!
KOFSKY: Are those the people you want to appeal to, or is that what you want people to do then destroy the system?
ZAPPA: No, not exactly destroy it. I want it modified to the point where it works properly. A lot of people think that a new political movement, the ideal new political movement, is to bust it all up and start all over again with tribes and feathers in your hair and everybody loves everybody else. That's a lie. Those kids don't love each other, they're in that because it's like another club it's like the modern-day equivalent of a street gang. It's clean pachucos, a little hairier perhaps. But it's not right.
First of all, the idea of busting it all down and starting all over again is stupid. The best way to do, and what I would like to see happen, what I'm working towards, is using the system against itself to purge itself, so that it can really work. I think politics is a valid concept, but what we have today is not really politics. It's the equivalent of the high school election. It's a popularity contest. It's got nothing to do with politics what it is is mass merchandising.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 22:26:20
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Note the only southern California group name checked in the 1967 interview...
KOFSKY: California is clearly the center of the new popular music. I wonder how you relate the Mothers to some of the northern California groups like the Jefferson Airplane, and the Grateful Dead, and, though it's a southern California group, Love. I'm curious as to how you see the relationship between you and your audience compared to the relationship between them and their audience?
ZAPPA: The whole San Francisco scene is promoting a love relationship between the audience and the group. The group is supposed to love the audience to death.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 22:42:50
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AND THEN THIS HERESY.....
KOFSKY: I think it rules the world. Actually, it's cannon fodder like the rest of us.
Love, a group I'm not terribly impressed with as a whole, also have a saxophonist and are trying to combine jazz improvisation with rock.
ZAPPA: Actually, what they're trying to do is to imitate our band.
KOFSKY: I heard them first. Is it just coincidental that their album was released first?
ZAPPA: Well, let me tell you of a few interesting coincidences that I've noticed, that lead me to suspect that we're making more of an impact on the industry than the people in the industry would like to admit. I was mailed a picture of Paul McCartney many months ago, from a girl in Europe, with my mustache and my tie, with my earphones, conducting an orchestra. And this is about the time I was preparing an album for Capitol where I was conducting an orchestra.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 23:04:50
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And this last quote by Zappa about LoVE.....it's remarkable to me that they are noted as many times in this 1967 interview....before Forever changes was even released.
KOFSKY: Some of my students at Carnegie Tech turned me on to it and the Andy Warhol album at the same time.
ZAPPA: I like that album. I think that Tom Wilson deserves a lot of credit for making that album, because it's folk music. It's electric folk music, in the sense that what they're saying comes right out of their environment.
KOFSKY: It's folk in the sense of relating to a milieu.
ZAPPA: Love is that kind of group too, because what they sing about is the folk music of the L.A. freak. What we sing about is the folk music of our environment from Pomona to L.A. You know, being kicked around in go-go bars, and like that.
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waxburn
Old Love
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Posted - 22/09/2011 : 04:09:38
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[quote]Originally posted by lemonade kid
AND THEN THIS HERESY.....
KOFSKY: I think it rules the world. Actually, it's cannon fodder like the rest of us.
Love, a group I'm not terribly impressed with as a whole, also have a saxophonist and are trying to combine jazz improvisation with rock.
ZAPPA: Actually, what they're trying to do is to imitate our band.
KOFSKY: I heard them first. Is it just coincidental that their album was released first?
i have to be honest here, there is one album that i ever threw away in the trash can after hearing it- didnt give it away or try to exchange, just tossed in the trash can: We are in it for the money by Zappa.  'hes the indian of the group'. jeez a laugh track couldnt save that. too good for the music, too good to be a hippie. His listenable stuff was the stuff that was instrumental with no vocals doing his silly lyrics. 
i suspect that LOVE was around before he was. [:) Zappa couldnt write 7 and 7 is if his life depended on it.  |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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9873 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2011 : 06:48:09
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REALLY WAXBURN...?!
No more to be said about the absurd things you just threw out...
I will not debate such assertions...but I respect your opinions nonetheless. We're Only In it for The Money...in the top 50 albums of all time...my opinion.
But cheers, friend.
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waxburn
Old Love
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Posted - 22/09/2011 : 14:20:57
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Originally posted by lemonade kid
REALLY WAXBURN...?!
No more to be said about the absurd things you just threw out...
I will not debate such assertions...but I respect your opinions nonetheless. We're Only In it for The Money...in the top 50 albums of all time...my opinion.
But cheers, friend.
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Sometimes I have good luck...
& write better than I can.
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most of his stuff is embarrasing, 'dont eat the yellow snow'. his instrumental stuff is semi interesting. We are in it for the Money was some sort of comedy record. problem is that its not that funny.
i dont think i was able to listen to it all the way thru once.
his album with Capt Beefheart is good, and the one with Willy the Wimp. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2011 : 21:06:04
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Zappa wisdom...from RW...thanks!
Cartoonist Al Capp ( Li'l Abner) , and confrontational talk show host Joe Pyne could be very cantankerous, and opinionated, but even so, they both were amusing in their own way.
And they both were amputees with an artificial leg.
As the story goes, it isn't certain whether it was Al Capp on the Dick Cavett Show, or Joe Pyne on his own show, but it doesn't matter.
Frank Zappa was a guest on with one of them.
At some point whichever one it was: Capp, or Pyne taunted musician Frank Zappa about his long hair, asking Zappa if he thought he was a girl.
Zappa is said to have replied," You have a wooden leg; does that make you a table" ?
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THE MOTHERS OF INVENTION....need I say more?
