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John9
Old Love
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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 Posted - 12/11/2010 : 19:49:33
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Great read, J9! Thanks!
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John9
Old Love
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 21:50:03
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You're welcome, LK. It's ironic in the light of the location of this interview to think that Love played New York hardly at all before 1970. When I first got to walk along Bleecker Street myself back in 1989, this wonderful lyric from Joni Mitchell was playing in my mind:
"There's a sorrow in his eyes
Like the angel made of tin
What will happen if I try
To place another heart in him
In a Bleecker Street cafe
I found someone to love today"
And then of course there was that beautiful Paul Simon song. I think that as a generation, we were truly blessed.  |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 22:45:27
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And then there is the iconic Elektra LP...Bleecker & MacDougal by Fred Neil.
My favorite Electra cover and I have the guitar player logo label
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 23:14:51
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| ...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place? |
Edited by - John9 on 12/11/2010 23:21:20 |
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 01:11:22
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Going back to Arthur Lee and New York, there is an excellent song of his that is rarely mentioned....Dream. It was presumably written sometime in 1968 and contains the line:
"I just stepped in from New York"
I especially love the bridge where Jay Donnellan's breathtaking guitar solo is underpinned by a resonant and expressive bass line from Frank Fayad....one of Love's best moments in my book...and it has always impressed those people to whom I've played it.
"Don't you think I ought to come on home?" |
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Joe Morris
Old Love
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 01:17:04
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"Dream" has always struck me as a bit of a bore on Four Sail, not too much in the way of actual melody, although not as bad as "Talking in my sleep"!
Arthur seems to have been afraid of being away from LA during the period - Jac Holzman mentioned bringing him out to New York and he wouldn't even stay the night! |
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John9
Old Love
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 01:21:01
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| I don't think that I've ever been bored by any of Arthur's songs - certainly not those from his formative 1965-70 period. |
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waxburn
Old Love
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 03:32:26
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Originally posted by John9
...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place?
Freddie and Jac Holzman and Paul Rothschild couldnt stand each other. Freddie spent many years working the Brill Building scene and knew
all about the publishing.
Freddie Neil RIP was one of the greats and a true beatnick. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 17:15:21
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Originally posted by waxburn
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Originally posted by John9
...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place?
Freddie and Jac Holzman and Paul Rothschild couldnt stand each other. Freddie spent many years working the Brill Building scene and knew
all about the publishing.
Freddie Neil RIP was one of the greats and a true beatnick.
You are right, Wx. Fred was at the top of the Village scene and everyone, including Bobby Dylan wanted to be like Fred. Fred even let Bob carry his guitar  ...and sit in at harp a few times. But Fred hated the music world more than anyone...especially the easy acces to drugs and what they did to him. His heart was always with the "Dolphins" and after just a few albums, wnet back to his Florida and spent the rest of his life saving dolphins.
Fred is THE VOICE.....what a beautiful singer he was.
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waxburn
Old Love
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 21:43:51
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Originally posted by waxburn
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Originally posted by lemonade kid
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Originally posted by waxburn
[quote]Originally posted by John9
...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place?
Freddie and Jac Holzman and Paul Rothschild couldnt stand each other. Freddie spent many years working the Brill Building scene and knew
all about the publishing.
Freddie Neil RIP was one of the greats and a true beatnick.
You are right, Wx. Fred was at the top of the Village scene and everyone, including Bobby Dylan wanted to be like Fred. Fred even let Bob carry his guitar ...and sit in at harp a few times. But Fred hated the music world more than anyone...especially the easy acces to drugs and what they did to him. His heart was always with the "Dolphins" and after just a few albums, wnet back to his Florida and spent the rest of his life saving dolphins.
Fred is THE VOICE.....what a beautiful singer he was.
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Thats the basic story on Fred, but the truth is far from that.
Freddie was a true free spirit, a beatnik.
Theres one thing about Fred, he never was where he was supposed to be, if you hear Fred was in Florida, thats the one place he was not at. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 17:44:12
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I'd love to hear more, wax. Any short bits you can share....would be great.
Fred is one of my all time favorites and the stories have always painted Fred as a talented, drug addled miscreant that fled the music scene to escape the drugs and the stress, as if he didn't enjoy his own music anymore at all.
Apologies to Fred for believing the hype that is untrue...even from a bit I read in Mojo some years back that supported those stories.
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Joe Morris
Old Love
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 22:29:07
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 15/11/2010 : 14:16:58
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| Jac Holzman....Just seem to appreciate him all the more after all the years. A little "understanding" goes along way in producing great stuff from musicians. I don't know. Are the people in music thinking his way now in nurturing artists??? |
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sometimesmylifeissoeerie
Fourth Love
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Posted - 16/11/2010 : 00:17:05
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Fred Neil wrote some great songs. Richie Havens' version of "That's the Bag I'm In" was incredible!
"Mixed Bag" was one of the greatest LPs ever made. Did RH ever record anything as good as Mixed Bag? |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 16/11/2010 : 01:29:54
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Originally posted by sometimesmylifeissoeerie
Fred Neil wrote some great songs. Richie Havens' version of "That's the Bag I'm In" was incredible!
"Mixed Bag" was one of the greatest LPs ever made. Did RH ever record anything as good as Mixed Bag?
Maybe not but I am very partial to "Stonehenge".
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Jac Holzman: Weird Scenes From........
