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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 10/11/2010 :  16:48:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone read this at Lennon's site?

"Rethinking John Lennon's Assassination/The FBI's War On Rock Stars"

Quite interesting if not unbelievable, but there is quite an extensive "case study" of LoVE members and their deaths and associations, such as with the Manson connection.

Also, deaths discussed in detail-Janis Joplin, Nancy Nevins of Sweetwater, Brian Jones and a few others.

What do you all think?

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Chapter14.htm



Not much on Morrison here, but a fascinating read...concerning untimely deaths of 82 rock stars or related deaths to rock figures and the clusters of deaths surrounding certain events.





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Edited by - lemonade kid on 10/11/2010 16:50:32

lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9873 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2010 :  17:07:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW, the speculation here about Love and "the Spiral Staircase" and the Satanic Castle is so much bull****, it is unbelievable....this guy is so full of speculation and guesswork & himself....but thought you all might find it intereesting!!

Lee/Morrison and Manson were drinking buddies?!!! Holy ****!! What a load of crap!



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Edited by - lemonade kid on 10/11/2010 17:13:19
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2010 :  14:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From that writer...
"MacLean’s death is a bit suspicious because, according to writer Barney Hoskyns, he was in excellent physical condition in 1996, two years before his death, running five miles a day".

Well anybody learning about Maclean or Love or Arthur etc for the first time no doubt will latch onto this one. And the stories then will go on to a life...who knows where.

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markk
Old Love

USA
803 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2010 :  16:17:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is unbelievable. Is this something just released or old?
Who is this guy Salvador Austacia? Sometimes ya gotta just Let it Be. This may sound rediculous, but this has changed my whole day.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9873 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2010 :  16:35:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love named after "Cupid"-- the almost guitar player?!! I don't think Arthur
would name HIS band after a guy who sat in for a couple of sets...come on!
Arthur feeling bad about letting someone go in the best interest of the group?!!
NAH!

Could Manson's personal henchman (this guy's source) be a bit delusional? Now
that would be a stretch....!!


I am almost sorry I found this site. PLEASE!

This article may be harmful to your LOVE!
Take it all with a grain of salt ...or a boatload of bullst#t!!
So put on your hip-boot waders....


MarkK....it changed your day? Hopefully not about Love. We all know about the
Hoover era FBI and cross dressing....but really, none of this has ever been
mentioned in any Love bio.....so I ask also--who is this Salvator Austacia and
WTF is he talking about?!!!



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kdion11
Old Love

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2010 :  00:10:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

BTW, the speculation here about Love and "the Spiral Staircase" and the Satanic Castle is so much bull****, it is unbelievable....this guy is so full of speculation and guesswork & himself....but thought you all might find it intereesting!!

Lee/Morrison and Manson were drinking buddies?!!! Holy ****!! What a load of crap!


KD: Further to these types of conspiracy rumors, over at the huge
Jimi Hendrix portal / site Crosstown Turrents there were pages and
pages of conspiracy theories on how Jimi was "offed" by his sinister manager Mike Jeffery, reported to have had ties with British Secret Agents / MI5, The CIA, the MAFIA, German Hells Angels, and anyone else you want to add.

The theories are that Jeffery's "agents" waterboarded Jimi to death with red wine, and then covered it all up for the last 40 years with the help of UK Intelligence. All part of the "covert" war on rock.

Yea, right. What a load of crap.


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kdion11
Old Love

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2010 :  00:31:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by lemonade kid

BTW, the speculation here about Love and "the Spiral Staircase" and the Satanic Castle is so much bull****, it is unbelievable....this guy is so full of speculation and guesswork & himself....but thought you all might find it intereesting!!

Lee/Morrison and Manson were drinking buddies?!!! Holy ****!! What a load of crap!


KD: Boy, what a load of crap indeed ! Just finished this chapter
on LOVE. Talk about a lot of "woulda, coulda, shoulda"

"Perhaps this, and perhaps that". Arthur Lee and Charles Manson, drinking buddies and hanging out ? Doesn't this clown know Manson
was an ARCH Racist ? He forbid his family from ever even listening to Jimi Hendrix apparently. Can't see him putting up with LOVE records either.
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Joe Morris
Old Love

3491 Posts

Posted - 14/11/2010 :  17:17:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bummer in the summer
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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 15/11/2010 :  07:47:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got a signal from the radio the CIA put in my molars telling me that it's all true.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 16/11/2010 :  15:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I think all of us here might have to be a on "veracity" patrol for the next few years when it comes to the "facts" of Love after reading some of what was written....next thing is they'll be saying Arthur was really an alien...
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ALLANAGAIN
Old Love

United Kingdom
687 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2010 :  17:04:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Neil Young sings.....A PIECE OF CRAP!
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9873 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2010 :  18:05:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What bothers me is that there are readers at that site for whom this drivel is their first introduction to Arthur & LoVE....sad really.



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Joe Morris
Old Love

3491 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2010 :  03:58:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wait, did Love have something to do with the Kennedy assassination? !
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gatemouthmoore
Fourth Love

202 Posts

Posted - 21/11/2010 :  04:31:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This guy must have gotten hold of some very powerful "Acid!" His rantings sound like someone having a really bad trip. The "Castle" was in the Los Feliz area. The house with the spiral staircase, (the bubble house) was near Griffith Park, both were quite some distance from Laurel Canyon, where the old Bela Lugosi mansion was. Bummer Bob, as we all knew him, (not "Cupid") was nothing more than an asterisk, during the groups Grassroots period. Never ever, was he associated with LOVE.

Can you imagine Arthur, (or anyone in the group) having a beer with, or even talking too, the personification of evil, known as Charles Manson? He is a racist, opportunistic, low-life, delusional dwarf. They wouldn't have even acknowledged his presence!

On the out-takes of the LOVE dvd, Johnny talks at length, about "Bummer Bob" and the
group's relationship with him, and how he (Bobby) was afraid of some guy named Charlie.

It's clear, that neither Arthur, or Johnny... ever hung-out with, or even knew a Charles Manson existed, prior to his orchestrating that orgy of death in North Hollywood. The kind of manufactured nonsense, speculation and misinformation emanating from these kinds of books, have given this group so much grief. This so-called writer, should find a more appropriate job... cleaning cesspools, and leave writing to those who are rational.

GMM

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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9873 Posts

Posted - 21/11/2010 :  17:28:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gatemouthmoore

This guy must have gotten hold of some very powerful "Acid!" His rantings sound like someone having a really bad trip. The "Castle" was in the Los Feliz area. The house with the spiral staircase, (the bubble house) was near Griffith Park, both were quite some distance from Laurel Canyon, where the old Bela Lugosi mansion was. Bummer Bob, as we all knew him, (not "Cupid") was nothing more than an asterisk, during the groups Grassroots period. Never ever, was he associated with LOVE.

Can you imagine Arthur, (or anyone in the group) having a beer with, or even talking too, the personification of evil, known as Charles Manson? He is a racist, opportunistic, low-life, delusional dwarf. They wouldn't have even acknowledged his presence!

On the out-takes of the LOVE dvd, Johnny talks at length, about "Bummer Bob" and the
group's relationship with him, and how he (Bobby) was afraid of some guy named Charlie.

It's clear, that neither Arthur, or Johnny... ever hung-out with, or even knew a Charles Manson existed, prior to his orchestrating that orgy of death in North Hollywood. The kind of manufactured nonsense, speculation and misinformation emanating from these kinds of books, have given this group so much grief. This so-called writer, should find a more appropriate job... cleaning cesspools, and leave writing to those who are rational.

GMM

AMEN! Well put, gatemouth!

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Joe Morris
Old Love

3491 Posts

Posted - 21/11/2010 :  18:17:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bummer (Bob) in the summer

Thank you, thank you, good night!
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