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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
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 Posted - 01/09/2010 : 18:03:13
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At least for 100's of thousands of US soldiers and soldiers world wide, it is...mostly...in Iraq.
Thank you Mr President for keeping your promise.
Christmas in August! Happy Xmas (War IS Over)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8jw-ifqwkM
Your feelings? What are the reactions from other members' countries...your media's take on it?
Peace!
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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
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Edited by - lemonade kid on 14/10/2010 19:37:43 |
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 22:45:16
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A highly important topic, LK. Our former prime minister, Tony Blair, has tonight given an hour long high profile TV interview to the BBC's
Andrew Marr. His new book, A Journey has also been published today. In the face of some tough questioning, he admitted that the intelligence re WMD was incorrect and that neither he nor George W Bush had foreseen the carnage that would ensue within Iraq for more than seven years. But he also said that his absolute bottom line was to do with Saddam Hussein - and whether the Middle East and the World generally have become safer places without him. He added that before long, we will be facing a very similar question with regard to Iran.
I honestly do not know whether the war was right or wrong. From one point of view it seems to have been such a terrible waste of life...and the bringer of so much unimaginable grief and suffering to so many families. But then we know that the former Iraqi dictator had a track record of using chemical weapons.... first against Iran during that dreadful war during the 1970s...and then against Kurdish strongholds within his own country. If he had used such weapons against Israel in 2003, then that almost certainly would have provoked a nuclear response from the Zionist state.....and then where would we all be? The people who have to take decisions of that kind face an almost impossible task. In Britain in 1938, the appeasers had the upper hand. By the following year, those who wanted to take action against Hitler were in the ascendency......and US amabassador to London, Joseph Kennedy, was urging Roosevelt not to consider backing Britain in what he saw as a futile cause. But I don't think that anyone at the time could have predicted that within just over two years, the World would have changed forever. |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2010 : 15:16:55
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| War is hell and it's a bad bad business. I really think that we here in the US are really feeling it. I agree with john about the immense suffering and sacrifice families have gone through here. We maybe are out of one war but we still are in another one. I hope we can take it and not let it be a quagmire like Nam. Petraeus really has a tough job there in Afghanistan, a historic graveyard if there was ever was one.from a historical perspective, we can see that wars can sap the will of Empires and countries. I hope we can handle this for our future. |
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
2154 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2010 : 23:09:05
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Further to this, I recently received from Barry McGuire this newly recorded version of Eve of Destruction. The video is especially powerful....I do urge everyone to watch it and to share in its message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS0m-TBBOyM |
Edited by - John9 on 02/09/2010 23:21:40 |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9875 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2010 : 02:47:25
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As powerful as ever. Thanks Barry.
Thanks for posting, John....
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Joe Morris
Old Love
3492 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2010 : 01:16:59
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I always love when Dylans asked about Barry in Eat The Document and then starts going off on Johnny Cash. Pretty fun stuff
then he pukes on John Lennon! upROARIOUS!! |
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bob f.
Old Love
USA
1308 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2010 : 05:30:40
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War is over if you want it.....
but.....THEY don't want it over.
War is a very profitable business and a fanatical religious fundamentalist disease....
It's just business. And insanity.
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ALLANAGAIN
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2010 : 15:15:05
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Well put Bob, War will never be over as long as greed, hating your brother, and religious fanatisicm exist.
What really sckens me is that while this multi million industry roll,s on and on, families and baby,s who no nothing about the issues will get blown to peices, people like me and you.
Reaaly depressing, but WAR is allways going to be with us, i cannot remember a time in my life when there wasn,t a war
Northen ireland, middle east , wherever it,s allways been there...Satans playground for sure.
LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2010 : 14:16:14
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You kknow i think most of you recall that guy PF Sloan who wrote alot of those "protest" songs back when. We're fed up and we're not gonna take it!!! It's funny but I can't recall naybody now who fits that mold. Am I missing anything in music or something?
Here's what Imean. Aftr the financial collapse which i think is one of the nost reprehensible, foolish and greedy acts in US economic and social history, I'd think there'd be alot of stuff going on in music circles ala 60's. I mean we're talking here about people's livelihoods and work and jobs etc. Like car54, hey you PF Sloan's where are you?????? Must be the music biz i think. It's a different world out there now my friends..... . |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2010 : 14:21:31
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and man Barry's a hit it again!.and I think he's one of the few who is socially conscious!!...
john.. is the song available for download or on cd? |
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SignedRW
Fifth Love
USA
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Posted - 09/09/2010 : 20:49:39
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| Hey Rocker, P.F. Sloan is still around, with some strong fairly recent live shows and and a highly recommended CD from just a couple of years ago. Jimmy Webb pretty much immortalized him by writing a song that bears his name, on which Jimmy and Jackson Browne do a cool duet version on the current Jimmy Webb release. As for who today is still writing powerful social commentary in songs, in particular regarding U.S. military involvement in the middle east, check You-Tube or an on-line audio source for "Man of God," by the very talented Eliza Gilkyson. |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2010 : 14:13:55
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| Thx rw..whoa what a song...the lyrics are just so powerful and apt..I'm sure bobf would love the line that if Jesus was around the "moneychangers would be out on the street!". |
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bob f.
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 10/09/2010 : 23:55:24
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Yesiree, rocker! these war-monger Corporate whores would be out on the streets begging for more money to fund the wars, even against their own interests! (Tea-Bagger Faux News Zombies)
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9875 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 19:15:17
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Originally posted by rocker
You kknow i think most of you recall that guy PF Sloan who wrote alot of those "protest" songs back when. We're fed up and we're not gonna take it!!! It's funny but I can't recall naybody now who fits that mold. Am I missing anything in music or something?
Here's what Imean. Aftr the financial collapse which i think is one of the nost reprehensible, foolish and greedy acts in US economic and social history, I'd think there'd be alot of stuff going on in music circles ala 60's. I mean we're talking here about people's livelihoods and work and jobs etc. Like car54, hey you PF Sloan's where are you?????? Must be the music biz i think. It's a different world out there now my friends......
James McMurtry (yeah, son of the famous author of the Lonesome Dove saga), does some pretty heavy socially conscious music...and is Stephen King's favorite on his online Maine alt rock radio station...
Here is one from an album that was voted best alt roots rock album of that year.
Check out the various albums from McMurtry...brilliant stuff. His band is called The Heartless Bastards, if that doesn't get you.....! He strums a nice 12 string too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOWrqR_QFfg ...We Can't Make it Here Anymore...still current even though it was recorded during Bush's debacle.
And a great song (in a storyteller style, guess he gets it from his father)
Rachel's Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ISt-IuoTgY&feature=related
And the title track from "Too Long In the Wasteland"- his first LP...a great one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ7NbFAPdcc&feature=related
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Edited by - lemonade kid on 14/10/2010 19:28:36 |
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captain america and billy
Old Love
907 Posts |
Posted - 25/03/2011 : 18:48:51
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| A spine tingling moment I'll never forget. One day back in 2001, in the immediate wake of 9/11, the concert for Darfur was getting ready to rock featuring the love and peace message music of John Lennon. The Boston Herald featured a photo of John on the front page with a piece urging readers to get the full details of the concert inside. Just a couple inches beneath him, none other than Osama Bin Laden! Made me think what it would have been like if their had been some kind off summit of good and evil between the two. Eerily some time later,a jockey on a local classic rock station made the exact same pontification! Of course, this is all sheer fantasy, but certainly if he were alive today he's be out there in all his Lennonesque glory in protest of all the political upheavals I watch nightly on t.v. Probably would have vehemently protested the entire Bush Jr. presidency! Despite the fact that his leftist attitudes nearly earned him deportation back in the '70's, I can't see John would have kept quiet with all the injustices going on around him. Might have been another "Give Peace a Chance" or "Power to the People". Or just maybe in 2001, the Fabs (minus an ill George Harrison) would ahve reunited for the Concert for New York. What a showstopper!! |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 25/03/2011 : 19:32:48
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You know I miss Lennon. He was taken from everybody too early.
I think he wojld've been our conscience and he certianly would not keep his mouth shut if we're talking about injustice in this world. |
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