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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9875 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  20:46:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got this recommendation from RW...

Positively4th Street:
The Lives and Times of Joan Baez,
Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina
and Richard Farina

by David Hajdu

Here is a review at the Amazon site...it sounds absolutely engrossing
and it looks like my next book. Anyone read it?
http://www.amazon.com/Positively-4th-Street-Farina-Richard/dp/086547642X



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Letting your freak flag fly is a state of mind,
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-lk

Edited by - lemonade kid on 10/01/2011 20:47:57

John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2154 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2011 :  08:49:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It looks a great read, LK. It is interesting to note that Joan Baez had her 70th birthday the weekend just passed.....and so shine on old girl.....you probably have the finest voice in the whole of popular music.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9875 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2011 :  18:12:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John9


It looks a great read, LK. It is interesting to note that Joan Baez had her 70th birthday the weekend just passed.....and so shine on old girl.....you probably have the finest voice in the whole of popular music.

And still touring and going strong. I just got the new Judy Collins album "Paradise" wherein we have a duet with Ms'. Baez & Collins singing "Diamonds and Rust".
Neither Judy or Joan have missed a step in their art-- right up to today....brilliant.

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Edited by - lemonade kid on 11/01/2011 18:16:26
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9875 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2011 :  18:56:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh-- and Judy teams up with....Steve Stills on "The Last Thing On My Mind" . Paradise!

Collins may just be the best interpreter of modern music even still today.






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SignedRW
Fifth Love

USA
280 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2011 :  20:18:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll guess that a fair number of members have in fact already read David Hajdu's "Positively 4th Street," as it's a few years old now; it's a well-written, fascinating examination of not only the Dylan-Baez interaction but also the relationship between Richard and Mimi Farina, and that of Richard with Dylan. The music of Richard and Mimi, recorded in their all too short time together, is the perfect soundtrack for this book; pretty fine stuff. Once one manages to get beyond Mimi's stunningly timeless beauty, it becomes clear that Richard Farina was not only a highly entertaining character, but a monster talent as well. I highly recommend both the book and their music. Also strongly recommended is yet another Dylan book (despite how many good ones are already out there), "Bob Dylan in America," by Sean Wilentz. This guy is a an extremely excellent writer, and the book works really well for those of us who may have felt that there's really nothing new to learn or discover about Dylan and his work. Happy New Year to all, and let us pray that this year brings an end to the seemingly ceaseless nightmare of tragic events the likes of which took last weekend in Arizona. The point at which extreme political polarization manages to cross paths with an already unbalanced mind, who among us can be even remotely surprised at the eventual outcome?
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9875 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2011 :  21:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gene Clark, Mr Tambourine Man by John Einarson

A thoughtful, complete book about my favorite solo artist.

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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9875 Posts

Posted - 20/01/2011 :  02:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ANd this one is beautiful...

Canyon of Dreams: The Magic and Music of Laurel Canyon

Some good sections about Doors and Love.

http://www.amazon.com/Canyon-Dreams-Magic-Music-Laurel/dp/1402765894/ref=pd_sim_b_1

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And one more....
"I'm With The Band: COnfessions of A Groupie" by Pamela Des Barres

http://www.amazon.com/Im-Band-Confessions-Pamela-Barres/dp/1556525893/ref=pd_sim_b_4


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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 26/03/2011 :  17:36:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Checked out "4th Street" from the local library a couple of years ago. Really insightful. Being someone who wasn't around in the '60's, I enjoy reading tomes that deliver stories from those times in such a way I almost feel as if I were traveling around with some of the people who were really into the social trends and changing musical ideologies. Particularly Beatles insider books. I am endlessly intrigued with the musical development,experimentation with soft drugs as it pertained to the perpetuaition of aural art,and political growth of the major players in sixties pop and folk. Check out "Heroes and Villains:Story of the Beach Boys" by Steven Gaines. Gaines also co-authored "The Love You Make:SAn Insiders Story of the Beatles" with Beatle confidant Peter Brown.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  14:17:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am endlessly intrigued with the musical development,experimentation with soft drugs as it pertained to the perpetuaition of aural art,and political growth of the major players in sixties pop and folk.

Me too capt....any takeaways you can share?...
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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  17:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what's a takeaway?
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  17:51:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
... your opinion about all that...
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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  20:45:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's always interested me how different people with varying abstract and surreal modes of reasoning platforms transform their ideas in musical and sociological conveyances that may inspire and influence others to respond in such a manner that the overall effect promotes a deepening of societal conscience so that there may be a perpetuated growth in a communal sense of understanding and applying ideas from all points of perspective which may produce a significant common peace. Actually, I just think it's all pretty cool.

Edited by - captain america and billy on 28/03/2011 20:46:28
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9875 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  23:07:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by captain america and billy

It's always interested me how different people with varying abstract and surreal modes of reasoning platforms transform their ideas in musical and sociological conveyances that may inspire and influence others to respond in such a manner that the overall effect promotes a deepening of societal conscience so that there may be a perpetuated growth in a communal sense of understanding and applying ideas from all points of perspective which may produce a significant common peace. Actually, I just think it's all pretty cool.

Ha! The first sentence got me wondering if YOU had tried a few "soft drugs" yourself to inspire your answer!!


But you are right...it's all just pretty cool! I remember those daze in Berkeley, & sleeping under the stars amongst the redwoods in Big Sur....
Keep om keepin' on, friend!

Another book I strongly recommend is "Trout Fishing In America" by Richard Brautigan...a fictional account of a hippie's trip along the highway of life.

http://www.brautigan.net/trout.html




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Letting your freak flag fly is a state of mind,
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-lk

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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  13:54:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
capt america....It sure looks like you're talking about art and how it comes out in artists and how it affects everybody else...the 60's kind of exploded with all that though it had its downsides too....
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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  17:11:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John Lennon once said that even if the counterculture he was huge in porporting wasn't very successeful, at least the under 30's of his heyday as lead leftist warrior "is making some kind of concerted effort effort". Just as in the manner of child-porns and identity thieves who have somewhat tarnished the notability of the importance of computer technologies today, indeed the likes of sociopathic self-appointed messiahs and maniacs such as Charles Manson urged many to possess a somewhat skewered opinion of the possible positive socio-behavioral benefits of psychedelic chemicals, most notably L.S.D. Certainly a jokingly soft analogy like "bad apples' would be gross understatement in either instance, but surely you grasp the inference. Unfortunately, there will always be sociopathy to some extent or another. Also to some degree, there will always be a certain fragment of the youth generation who opine with the seriously short sight self-delusion that in order to rebel, one must separate oneself from absolutely ALL accepted social norms, as was the case with Manson's "Family" and countless hordes of runaway teens who no doubt went entirly too far left for their own well being. George Harrison took a trip to Haight Ashbury in the summer of love and greatly disappointed and dissillusioned with what he found. In his homeland of England, socialites from the msuic and fahsion industries like fellow bandmate John Lennomn ingested copious amounts of acid, but there the drug, particularly in the artisan circles, was used purely for seek of seeking primal knowledge and towards the end of creating significant life-affirming art. So how was the idea translated by many a self-misguided youngster here. "Let's just all droop tabs, learn the three damn chords, add a few trippy minors and sevenths, and we too will compose our own epic opus". However, the majority of the tales I reda about from the period indicate that for the most part, many a "head" didi maintain discipline enough to remain at college and stay within fundamental social confines while dutifully,respectfully, and tastefully standing in protest of any injustice being done they feared may cause a disturbance in what they saw as an assumed agenda of what we all should agree is right and wrong. Today, there certainly exists a similar attitude in some self-proclaimed leftists,as I personally have witnessed on my way through Harvard Square going back and forth to work in the 90's, but on t.v. and on the street, I am witnessing an ever increasing percentage of youngsters becoming involved in the politics or drugs just to reserve their seat at the hip table. Just a hunch about the political aprt, but nowadays whatever the hell is being passed around as acid is consumed soley for the physical exhiliration, with no one delving into the spiritual and self relization properties of chemical experimentation. All of this is greatly reflected in the grossly underinspired song poetry I'm hearing. These people need more to act on more gutteral instincts of heart mind and soul, and less on the wanton needs of self-glorification.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  18:41:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am witnessing an ever increasing percentage of youngsters becoming involved in the politics or drugs just to reserve their seat at the hip table.

Could certainly be. And everybody has their own personal reactions to the drugs. One things I've thought about and it's that artists not all but some think that for their art they've got to "suffer" so they drown in drink and drugs to get that high for their "art". Problem is for some it's a dead end. They wind up dead and so does their art.
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