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gatemouthmoore
Fourth Love
202 Posts |
 Posted - 26/08/2010 : 00:12:08
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KD: Hey Gate. Makes you wonder why the unedited / unscrammbled version wasn't a bonus track on the Da Capo reissue !
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Wouldn't that be great? Alas, it is not meant to be...Paul mentioned in one of the recording magazines, back in the day that he threw out the "thirty three" minutes of tape that wound up on the cutting room floor.
There was a tape floating around in the "Eighties," of Love playing at the Filmore in San Francisco with the Greatfull Dead. This was when Tjay was still with the group.
Jerry Garcia sat in with them and they did a fantastic version of Revelation. The crowd was really into it! 
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Joe Morris
Old Love
3491 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2010 : 01:05:52
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Yikes! an even LONGER version of "Revelation"! 
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2010 : 14:04:30
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KD: Nope - gotsta be from Snoopy - he was the classicaly trained
pianist, who was just probaqbly reading the part, and playing
it on harpsichord.
Free the chords !
Snoopy, eh? Thanks kd...nwo that is a REVELATION to me.... ... only tells me of the potential of that band to go into other directions if they wanted to....... |
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kdion11
Old Love
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2010 : 21:52:55
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quote:
Originally posted by rocker
KD: Nope - gotsta be from Snoopy - he was the classicaly trained
pianist, who was just probaqbly reading the part, and playing
it on harpsichord.
Free the chords !
Snoopy, eh? Thanks kd...nwo that is a REVELATION to me....... only tells me of the potential of that band to go into other directions if they wanted to.......
KD: Hey Rock. One of my all time fav Love tracks is Que Vida
from Da Capo. I was grooving to this the other night and noticed
the KILLER organ track coming in at the end. Guess who played
that too ?
Snoopy !
Free the dogs ! |
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Joe Morris
Old Love
3491 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2010 : 21:54:03
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mono or stereo?
can't wait to hear the Dylan monos in October! whoo hoo! |
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kdion11
Old Love
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2010 : 21:56:24
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Originally posted by gatemouthmoore
KD: Hey Gate. Makes you wonder why the unedited / unscrammbled version wasn't a bonus track on the Da Capo reissue !
Wouldn't that be great? Alas, it is not meant to be...Paul mentioned in one of the recording magazines, back in the day that he threw out the "thirty three" minutes of tape that wound up on the cutting room floor.
There was a tape floating around in the "Eighties," of Love playing at the Filmore in San Francisco with the Greatfull Dead. This was when Tjay was still with the group.
Jerry Garcia sat in with them and they did a fantastic version of Revelation. The crowd was really into it!
GMM
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KD: Hey Gate. Didn't know that TJay Cantrelli did anything post
Da Capo. I thought that Gratefull Dead / Fillmore bill was the Four Sail line up from 1970 /71 ? Same gig tape that was used for
Love: Studio / Live. Keep On Shining, Singing Cowboy, Product of
the Times etc.
Free the dates ! |
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gatemouthmoore
Fourth Love
202 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2010 : 03:06:09
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[quote]Originally posted by kdion11
[quote]Originally posted by gatemouthmoore
KD: Hey Gate. Didn't know that TJay Cantrelli did anything post
Da Capo. I thought that Gratefull Dead / Fillmore bill was the Four Sail line up from 1970 /71 ? Same gig tape that was used for
Love: Studio / Live. Keep On Shining, Singing Cowboy, Product of
the Times etc.
Hey KD,
The seven member line-up of Love toured quite extensively on the west coast, in 1967!
The group did the Earl Warren Showgrounds in Santa Barbara. The Fillmore, the Family Dog shows in San Francisco etc. They Introduced the "New" Love at the Whisky to great acclaim. That show blew peoples minds! Tjay was "Old-school" so he was quite the "Showman," and was very charismatic, so the ladies dug him. All that attention may have been [The] motivating factor in his being shown the door. The dude rocked it!
GMM
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waxburn
Old Love
USA
735 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2010 : 04:46:16
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Originally posted by kdion11
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Originally posted by rocker
KD: Nope - gotsta be from Snoopy - he was the classicaly trained
pianist, who was just probaqbly reading the part, and playing
it on harpsichord.
Free the chords !
Snoopy, eh? Thanks kd...nwo that is a REVELATION to me....... only tells me of the potential of that band to go into other directions if they wanted to.......
KD: Hey Rock. One of my all time fav Love tracks is Que Vida
from Da Capo. I was grooving to this the other night and noticed
the KILLER organ track coming in at the end. Guess who played
that too ?
Snoopy !
Free the dogs !
if anyone deserved a co write was Snoopy. he added much more color to DE CAPO than Tjay, who seems out of tune throughout.
Agreed, QUE VIDA is a highlight of the Love arsenal. |
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Joe Morris
Old Love
3491 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2010 : 15:55:50
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2010 : 17:02:56
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Snoopy became a good drummer even by Michael's standards, but could not hope to fill the needs of Arthur's next challenges on Da Capo & FC with the complex arrangements Arthur had in mind.
He ended up doing what many drummers could not....making the final cut on "7 & 7 Is"....a daunting task for any drummer to maintain that beat.
Snoopy is underrated as a keyboard artist and was put to his best use by Arthur, but as it says in John's book--there was not place for Snoop as Love was progressing and the organ volume at live shows was so low that he could not be heard, so just as his part in LOve was diminishing so was his volume.
Sometimes I think Snoopy is underrated due to Snoopy himself...he is his own worst enemy, because of the tales he has spread and the bad feelings he expresses. I would give my eye teeth to have been on Love's first LP as drummer and Da Capo on keyboards. AN honor that Snoop seems to forget. Besides, it was Arthur's band, and changes in lineup were part of the creative process. I do believe however that Snoopy should be getting royalties for his part, but that is another issue with Arthur altogether!!
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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
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Edited by - lemonade kid on 27/08/2010 17:04:10 |
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kdion11
Old Love
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2010 : 21:28:00
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quote:
Originally posted by gatemouthmoore
[quote]Originally posted by kdion11
[quote]Originally posted by gatemouthmoore
KD: Hey Gate. Didn't know that TJay Cantrelli did anything post
Da Capo. I thought that Gratefull Dead / Fillmore bill was the Four Sail line up from 1970 /71 ? Same gig tape that was used for
Love: Studio / Live. Keep On Shining, Singing Cowboy, Product of
the Times etc.
Hey KD,
The seven member line-up of Love toured quite extensively on the west coast, in 1967!
The group did the Earl Warren Showgrounds in Santa Barbara. The Fillmore, the Family Dog shows in San Francisco etc. They Introduced the "New" Love at the Whisky to great acclaim. That show blew peoples minds! Tjay was "Old-school" so he was quite the "Showman," and was very charismatic, so the ladies dug him. All that attention may have been [The] motivating factor in his being shown the door. The dude rocked it!
GMM
KD: Hey Gate. Yea, I know TJ toured and played in Love through
1967 etc, but your claim of a live LOVE tape floating around
in the 1980's from The Fillmore is not only news to me, but would
represent the "holy grail" for Love fans - a live tape surfacing
of the original line up. If true, then someone on this board
must have a copy !
Again, any news I've heard of a Love live Fillmore tape opening
for the Grateful Dead must have been that one that was used
on Love : Studio /Live.
Anyone else ever hear of this original line up live tape
from The Fillmore ?
Free the tapes ! |
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gatemouthmoore
Fourth Love
202 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2010 : 00:45:32
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There was a cast of characters that followed the band through-out the sixties. They were Jeffy Eisen, Tommy the "Chinaman" and Neal Rapaport. Any one of whom may have had tapes of early Love.
Jeffy Eisen was one of the few people who had full access to the group, and was known to have recorded them, many times. At one point in the early seventies he was trying to sell some of his treasures, which included a five foot blow-up of Arthur with little pink rollers in his hair.
By the eighties there was not much interest in collecting Love memorabilia, so I assume most of it is in a landfill somewhere. I can't imagine why none of them have surfaced. Though I do know from personal knowledge there are recordings out there!
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Joe Morris
Old Love
3491 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2010 : 16:14:53
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was there a live Fillmore disc with the 3 cd Blue Thumb box set
More interested in the original line up live, personally. Tapes of those seem to be pretty rare, to put it mildly!
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waxburn
Old Love
USA
735 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2010 : 17:43:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe Morris
was there a live Fillmore disc with the 3 cd Blue Thumb box set
More interested in the original line up live, personally. Tapes of those seem to be pretty rare, to put it mildly!
I doubt any of those tapes exist, except maybe for the Whiskey one/
I may be wrong but it seems the crowd surrounding Arthur was interested in other type of activities, and back then they would have had to smuggle reel to reels.
. Elektra didnt record them live which was a pity.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
9873 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2010 : 19:21:13
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From what I understand, almost all the Fillmore shows were recorded and Bill Graham had them archived....the whole vault was sold to a dude whose goal is to somehow release or save what he can, but the danger of them all deteriorating before that can be achieved is likely.
Who knows what gems there are to be discovered-- or forever lost.
Forever changes.
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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
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