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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/01/2010 :  23:09:28  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hah yeah the other record i've had on though is a little less celebrated - after that Jools performance i came across Boy George's solo album "Cheapness and beauty" on spotify, and to my suprise it was exactly what I was hoping for. He uses his excellent vocals exactly how I said it could have been used had he been in the 70s. Some of the songs are classics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBaYWEZT_ME You would have never thought this is the guy who was in culture club!
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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
104 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2010 :  18:52:56  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've got off the glam now and I'm listening to the latest Wild Beasts release. I saw them last year and wasn't too impressed (all the songs seemed to sound the same) but after a few listens I've really grown to it and would quite like to give them a 2nd chance live.
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
1520 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2010 :  19:25:57  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Pravda

I've got off the glam now and I'm listening to the latest Wild Beasts release. I saw them last year and wasn't too impressed (all the songs seemed to sound the same) but after a few listens I've really grown to it and would quite like to give them a 2nd chance live.



They do seem to be one of the bands that are being hyped at the moment, can't say I've been that impressed with what I've heard so far for pretty much the reason you say, it all seems to sound the same.
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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
104 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2010 :  20:39:30  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They remind me quite a lot (certainly in the vocals) to the Associates. Still they are only the third best current band from Kendal

Edited by - Martin Pravda on 05/01/2010 20:40:02
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/01/2010 :  22:15:30  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Pravda

They remind me quite a lot (certainly in the vocals) to the Associates. Still they are only the third best current band from Kendal



I adored The Associates/Billy McKenzie, I'm not sure I agree with you about the similarity but they do have a certain '80's style' about them.

And the best two current bands from Kendal are....
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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  01:32:14  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1) British Sea Power - In terms of consistency they are my favorite live band out of anyone.

2) Seven Seals - Excellent live act, and have released a couple of very good singles. 3/4 years ago they seemed to be on the verge of making it and were getting played quite a bit on national radios etc, but it just never happened, but they will still pack out any gig in the Cumbria area.

And if we are taking the whole of Cumbria and not just Kendal then Wild Beasts would only be the 4th best, behind The Witch and the robot, who are potentially an incredible band but are too eccentric for their own good. I've only seen them support BSP, and at the odd festival but I've heard stories of them playing gigs hidden away in the mountains around Ambleside and Grasmere where fans (who like me have found them through BSP) attempted to see them but simply couldnt find the location...and thats a regular The Witch and the Robot gig.

Edited by - Martin Pravda on 06/01/2010 01:35:10
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  09:34:27  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Pravda

1) British Sea Power - In terms of consistency they are my favorite live band out of anyone.

2) Seven Seals - Excellent live act, and have released a couple of very good singles. 3/4 years ago they seemed to be on the verge of making it and were getting played quite a bit on national radios etc, but it just never happened, but they will still pack out any gig in the Cumbria area.

And if we are taking the whole of Cumbria and not just Kendal then Wild Beasts would only be the 4th best, behind The Witch and the robot, who are potentially an incredible band but are too eccentric for their own good. I've only seen them support BSP, and at the odd festival but I've heard stories of them playing gigs hidden away in the mountains around Ambleside and Grasmere where fans (who like me have found them through BSP) attempted to see them but simply couldnt find the location...and thats a regular The Witch and the Robot gig.



I certainly agree with you about British Sea Power (I had forgotten they are from Kendal way as they seem to be hanging out in Brighton mostly these days). BSP are certainly my favourite live act of the last few years too, I have been seeing them for several years now, from tiny venues to a gig at the Roundhouse last year and they are always brilliant. If anyone here doesn't know them I recommend you check them out as they are certainly an entertaining live act, especially if you like trees, bears and owls

I'm not really aware of the other acts you mention but, as you have such excellent taste with BSP, i shall be checking them out.
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Tina
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  10:01:58  Show Profile  Visit Tina's Homepage  Click to see Tina's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Lizzy and I saw (or should I say heard)British Sea Power performing their score to the 1934 documentary "Man of Aran" last summer - it was at a festival so we were sat outside watching the film on a big screen with the band playing on a darkened stage in front of it. It really was a brilliant experience. I think they left the owl at home that evening, although it may have been off flying around the trees and catching mice.
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  10:07:34  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tina

Lizzy and I saw (or should I say heard)British Sea Power performing their score to the 1934 documentary "Man of Aran" last summer - it was at a festival so we were sat outside watching the film on a big screen with the band playing on a darkened stage in front of it. It really was a brilliant experience. I think they left the owl at home that evening, although it may have been off flying around the trees and catching mice.



I've got that on DVD but would have loved to have seen it live. Not sure the owl would have caught many mice lately though, it looked a bit stiff last time I saw it
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Tina
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  11:43:06  Show Profile  Visit Tina's Homepage  Click to see Tina's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think the Owl may have gone vegan, Caryne!
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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  13:01:32  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hah, I remember there was a time around the 2nd album when they took away all the owls and leaves etc from the live set and went for a more normal image, but BSP and normal just doesn't really go together and they quickly dropped the idea. I always feel from their live act there is a degree of intensity which I rarely find in other bands, I often think they are closest in this regard to what it must have been like to see the earliest post punk acts like Joy Division, Teardrop Explodes, Wire etc who have barely been matched since. As Caryne said they are brilliant both in the smallest venues and in huge packed out halls (which they are increasingly able to fill) and festivals. And very few bands could have created something like Man Of Aran either, they can be so diverse. I think, or at least hope that they will be the band people look back on from this generation as the real great of the era.
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  13:10:00  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Pravda

Hah, I remember there was a time around the 2nd album when they took away all the owls and leaves etc from the live set and went for a more normal image, but BSP and normal just doesn't really go together and they quickly dropped the idea. I always feel from their live act there is a degree of intensity which I rarely find in other bands, I often think they are closest in this regard to what it must have been like to see the earliest post punk acts like Joy Division, Teardrop Explodes, Wire etc who have barely been matched since. As Caryne said they are brilliant both in the smallest venues and in huge packed out halls (which they are increasingly able to fill) and festivals. And very few bands could have created something like Man Of Aran either, they can be so diverse. I think, or at least hope that they will be the band people look back on from this generation as the real great of the era.



Yes, I remember the time when they 'tried' to be 'normal' too, it wasn't really them, was it?

I was, being fairly old, able to see Joy Division, Wire, Teardop Explodes etc live many times and yes, I can agree, BSP are, nearly, up there with bands like that for amazing live performances. Of course, you can still see both Wire and Julian Cope live these days and I would recommend you do
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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  13:21:45  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I really really want to see Wire, but I saw Julian Cope a few years back do an acoustic set in this tiny venue in Northampton, played loads from Jehovahkill and Fried and the odd Teadrop one, it was one of the best gigs ive seen. The other one from that time who I always try to get to when they are around is the Fall, who are still today one of the best live acts around. I'm even getting quite into early (and very late - the middle era stuff is awful) New Order at the moment, and wouldn't mind catching Bad lieutenant soon (which appear to be basically new order without Peter Hook). There are a few newish bands who are brilliant, but when there is a shortage it's always great to have these legends still going strong!

Edited by - Martin Pravda on 06/01/2010 13:22:15
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caryne
Old Love

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  14:22:04  Show Profile  Visit caryne's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Pravda

I really really want to see Wire, but I saw Julian Cope a few years back do an acoustic set in this tiny venue in Northampton, played loads from Jehovahkill and Fried and the odd Teadrop one, it was one of the best gigs ive seen. The other one from that time who I always try to get to when they are around is the Fall, who are still today one of the best live acts around. I'm even getting quite into early (and very late - the middle era stuff is awful) New Order at the moment, and wouldn't mind catching Bad lieutenant soon (which appear to be basically new order without Peter Hook). There are a few newish bands who are brilliant, but when there is a shortage it's always great to have these legends still going strong!



I'm not so fond of The Fall, I did buy, and still own, their first two singles many years ago but I just can't stand Mark E Smith, I guess it's all his right-wing rantings over the years, it just puts me off.
Yes, New Order, at the beginning, were very good too but I'm not keen on much of their other stuff, though their final album was pretty good. Not so sure about Bad Lieutenant as I was quite fond of Hooky's bass playing and without him it's just not the same.

Like you say, Julian Cope is always a great live prospect. Other acts from way back then who are great today are Gang of 4 and the recently reformed, Magazine.
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Martin Pravda
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
104 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2010 :  18:39:45  Show Profile  Visit Martin Pravda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah MES can indeed come out with some rubbish, but I can never tell whether he is saying it with tounge in cheek just to wind people like me up (who do take offense at right wing bollocks) or whether he is genuine, as he comes out with all sorts directed at all sorts of people. But I guess it is kind of irrelevent as he definetly comes across as a unpleasent person who I certainly would't want to socialise with. But with music when I can I try to put personality aside from the sound, and I find with the Fall that is very possible as his lyrics are very poetic and not at all right wing. Over the last year or 2 I've started getting into a bit of Black Metal, and some of the best artists are the most horrible characters with the most shocking views. But a lot of the music is instrumental, so I find it easy to just switch off and not think about who is making it. I can see what you mean though, some artists make it very difficult - I remember finding it hard to listen to Morrissey after his horrible nationalistic rant in the NME a few years ago, but over time I managed to put that to one side as it's his vocals I like him for, and certainly not his political views.

Today I've been listening to a lot of Spiritualized. I've always kind of liked them but when wanting to listen to some post Spacemen 3 stuff I've gone for Sonic Boom/Spectrum/Peter Kember over it, but the early Spiritulized stuff is actually very good as well.

Edited by - Martin Pravda on 06/01/2010 18:41:03
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