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Allan
Old Love

USA
560 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  22:28:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm so glad to see some references here to The Yardbirds. The groups that influenced my new tastes in music back in the 60's were The Byrds, LOVE, and The Yardbirds.

Ed the Bear, John9, and Rocker...I totally agree with you. Back in the mid-60's, I had moved away from Motown and was fully engrossed in the new 'scene' and especially British invasion. I always thought of The Kinks-'Well Respected Man' whenever I heard/listened to "You're a Better Man than I". Please have a listen to the sitar version of 'Better Man than I'-it's awesome. I personally enjoyed the Beck-era Yardbirds the most...I just love Beck-brand Blues . BBC sessions is stellar. 'Dust My Broom' still gives me rushes. And for those still taken with The Yardbirds, may I suggest "Yardbirds-The Ultimate Rave Up" by Greg Russo. And do you remember the 'appearance' by The Yardbirds in 'Blow Up' by Antonioni. That was a treat seeing Page and Beck on stage together-however, someone here (maybe BobF) once pointed out that the 'appearance' really never took place...it was staged. And yes-'Little Games' is a gem

OldMan...thank you for that link. It's tremendous. Seeing Chris Dreja on bass was a first for me. I have this LP (yes-I still listen to my LP's often) called LIVE Yardbirds on Epic (E30615). It is the live LP of the New Yardbirds as they were called in NYC at the Anderson theater. It was to be their last gig before Page put Led Zeppelin together. It's a masterpiece in itself. White Summer is simply perfect.

And finally, it's hard to believe that Terry Reid turned down fronting Led Zepellin. I've always wondered how all those Zepellin songs would have sounded with Reid's vocals instead of Plant's.

The Yardbirds were legendary.

Allan

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Fifth Love

USA
276 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  00:37:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's an excellent live Yardbirds show from the Knitting Factory,
in Hollywood, from just last April 4th, available at Dimeadozen.org.
Despite the only original members being Jim McCarty and Chris Dreja,
this show smokes, and it sounds like the Yardbirds to me. Vocalist
John Idan (I'm guessing on the spelling) totally "gets" it, in a very
Keith Relf-like way.
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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  01:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Please have a listen to the sitar version of 'Better Man than I'-it's awesome.


Where can I find that? Wasn't there a sitar version of "Heart Full of Soul,", too?
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Allan
Old Love

USA
560 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  03:51:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ed

My total bad . There is no sitar version of "Better Man Than I". It is "Heart Full of Soul". Got caught up for the moment.

Apologies...

Allan

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bob f.
Old Love

USA
1308 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  04:26:47  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
despite the Clapton/ Beck less lineup, the later album, "Little Games", with Page, Mccarty, Relf, and Dreja, is great!
i, too , will always remember when " over under sideways down", and "Happenings ten years Ago", and " Shapes OF Things" first came out!
they had their own vibe, and , that collage on "happenings", with, ..."where you goin with that long hair..." hit home.
i'm listenen to a good comp> Yardbirds 63-68 on Raven records.
i actualy always prefere to have non-comp album cds, as original release recordings with everything, but sometimes ya have ta do the comp thing because those records are hard to get on cd re-release, but thanx to Sundazed and other vintage album companies, we can search and get what we want! i love vinyl AND cds! whatever format to bring it home , ok with me , but, geez, those big vinyl album covers realy are special! but it's the MUSIC, i want, so i cherrish the LP, AND am grateful for any CD of the good stuff, preferrably of original lps, with all the stuff , as opposed to compilations that delete album tracks, and add alternate, and mono, or live, and such.
i like the full original LP TO CD release. all the extras is gravy, and i love it!

...what the world needs now...
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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  05:19:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No problem, Allan. So where do I find this sitar version of "Heart Full of Soul?" Is it on one of the collections?
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  15:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
boy...have we got 'Birds and Byrds" fanatics here.......

heh heh At their Hall of Fame induction, Beck was asked what the Yardbirds gave rock'n'roll...He said: "We sort of laid the way for barbarism".........

You know it was interesting that Gouldman wrote "For Your Love" which kind of went a different way from the bluesy stuff they were doing. How did he get mixed up with them?? He also did some Hermit's songs too. Oh man maybe Beck could've done the riff to "Can't Your Hear My Heart Beat"!!
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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2113 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  20:59:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah ...the Hermits....another fine Manchester band ....along with the Hollies of course. Graham Gouldman is actually from my part of the city - Stockport(just outside).'Bus Stop', 'Look Through Any Window', 'Schoolgirl' - he sure could turn them out. I've just read that Gouldman also originally offered the Hollies 'No Milk Today' - but they passed on it and of course it was snapped up by the Hermits. In answer to an earlier posting, I do have a very clear recollection of the Yardbirds in 'Blow-Up' - I thought that they fitted in very well with the mood and atmosphere of the film.

Edited by - John9 on 06/03/2008 20:59:53
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Allan
Old Love

USA
560 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  21:40:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ed

I was at some music store in the early 90's in Boise Idaho. I came across a twin pack Cassette of Yardbirds in the special price section. One tape had the Sonny Boy Williamson recordings on it. The other had most of their big hits, including the sitar version. It was some kind of compilation twin pack for like $3...I couldn't resist

You can also find it on Napster under 'The Yardbirds Story by Georgio Gomelsky CD3'.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2008 :  22:16:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
john9..I thought Gouldman was some songwriter....man he had alot of pop hits..onhis own and with 10cc...is he hanging around Manchester these days?...
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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2113 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  00:01:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Rocker - I'm not actually sure. I've never met him although I've worked with people who know him. One other interesting connection - when I was in teaching I worked with an extremely talented teacher of English called Tony Cassidy. Years before he had been the lead singer with a UK band called the St Louis Union - although he was usually reluctant to talk about his brief flirtation with fame. Unfortunately he passed away three years ago but in early 1966 the group had had a top ten hit over here with a cover of Lennon-McCartney's 'Girl' from 'Rubber Soul'. Many years later, another friend played me a rare and long deleted single from his own amazing collection. It turned out to be the St Louis Union's virtually unknown follow up to 'Girl' from all those years before - it was entitled 'Behind the Door' and really knocked me out - and I just couldn't understand how such a splendid record could have been so overlooked upon its release. I've just discovered on Wikepedia that the song's writer was ....yes you've guessed it......Graham Gouldman!

ADDENDUM - Since posting this, I have just checked on Amazon. Graham released in 2004 a collection of his own interpretations of his 1960s classics. It is entitled 'The Graham Gouldman Thing' and includes in addition to the afforementioned 'Behind the Door', 'For Your Love', 'Bus Stop' 'No Milk Today' and 'Pamela' - remember that one...Wayne Fontana? Just going back there to order my copy ....I really do wish it could be 1966 again!

Edited by - John9 on 07/03/2008 00:21:56
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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  06:54:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the tip, Allan.
John, I'm not sure I'd want it to be 1966 again -- things were kind of ugly here in the States -- but I wouldn't mind being 16 again!

Edited by - ed the bear on 07/03/2008 06:54:39
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  15:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"..not sure I'd want it to be 1966 again"...heh heh..right ..I have the feeling that things in the UK were just a little bit different than what was going on around here at the time and what was going to happen later on. Absolutely a crazy crazy time here. Talk about a system and society losin', how shall we say it?, its "equilibrium".
(for some reason the album that always brings up the era is "Volunteers"). Looking back, I don't know how the hell we got out of it and I just get exhausted thinking about that time. (if you want to know the truth I think Arthur was the guy who did the hard thinking, eh?)
Anyway, I know Lennon in, "Lennon Remembers" had some funny reflections on us when he first came over here with the rest of the Beatles. Little did he know that in a few years we'd all go nuts.

john9..great trivia there on Graham...should be insome songwriter's Hall of fame. And how do the Brits treat his artistic talent and legacy?
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John9
Old Love

United Kingdom
2113 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2008 :  23:28:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ed, Rocker: Yes, I can see that 1966 had its drawbacks. Even in the UK we had our worries then: strikes, increasing controversy over race relations and, worst of all, the Aberfan tragedy in South Wales. Additionally, our prime minister (Harold Wilson ) was coming under a great deal of pressure from Lyndon Johnson to commit British forces to Vietnam - and there was an ever increasing possibility that we would need to go to war with the illegal Smith regime in Rhodesia. But in music......it's not just that mainstream pop was at an absolute peak then. The arrival of albums in that year such as 'Revolver', 'Blonde on Blonde' and 'Aftermath' made it feel as though we were in an ever expanding universe of possibility. 2008 for all its high living standards and technological progress doesn't feel quite like that to me - or maybe I'm just getting old!

Edited by - John9 on 08/03/2008 23:34:07
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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 09/03/2008 :  08:41:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes I feel like it's that time over again, but without the good music. Steppenwolf's "Monster" with a montage of images from Iraq -- I posted a link in "Protest Songs" -- gave me chills when I watched it today.

But you're right about the music. Mrs. Bear grew up in the Motor City, and reports that things were peaking there, too. Even some stuff that seemed lame back then sounds pretty good now. (I refuse to name titles for fear of being mocked.)

Edited by - ed the bear on 09/03/2008 08:46:03
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