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oldfartatplay
Third Love

74 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2005 :  11:41:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's kind of sad that Harvey has come on board just as LarryNYC has called it a day.I'm sure that with a few thousand miles of touring,and a trunkload of anecdotes,between them they could have kept these boards well alive for quite a while.One of my oldest friends,and still a close neighbour down here in Dorset,is a veteran of the British music scene,as former roadie(Thin Lizzy in the early years...another rich source of Spinal Tap-style legends),DJ,Promoter,and Vintage Record Shop owner.He still says to this day.....'Never get to meet your heroes - they'll always pop your balloons!'Harvey has already reminded me why I didn't make the effort to catch Arthur & Love back in '74,even though I could get hold of tickets for the Rainbow very easily since I knew half of the staff through college,and the network of wierd & wonderful squats which formed the heart of London life back in those days.As many will recall,Larry was down the road running the stage at the Roundhouse about that time.Hazey Daze indeed...welcome aboard Harvey!
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waxburn
Old Love

USA
735 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2005 :  17:55:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by oldfartatplay

It's kind of sad that Harvey has come on board just as LarryNYC has called it a day.I'm sure that with a few thousand miles of touring,and a trunkload of anecdotes,between them they could have kept these boards well alive for quite a while.One of my oldest friends,and still a close neighbour down here in Dorset,is a veteran of the British music scene,as former roadie(Thin Lizzy in the early years...another rich source of Spinal Tap-style legends),DJ,Promoter,and Vintage Record Shop owner.He still says to this day.....'Never get to meet your heroes - they'll always pop your balloons!'Harvey has already reminded me why I didn't make the effort to catch Arthur & Love back in '74,even though I could get hold of tickets for the Rainbow very easily since I knew half of the staff through college,and the network of wierd & wonderful squats which formed the heart of London life back in those days.As many will recall,Larry was down the road running the stage at the Roundhouse about that time.Hazey Daze indeed...welcome aboard Harvey!



OFAP, sad to see LNYC go, but I don't understand exactly what they want, do they want everyone here to berate AL? AL hasn't done
anything to me, but make music that I love. I don't really want to be his friend, or hang out with him etc etc.
It seems that many here are friends with BL, nothing wrong with that.
But I don't know BL, never have received 'private emails' and it wouldn't really matter if I had.They have beers after the show and hang out. I don't drink beer anymore. It makes people act funny-case in point, some of the people up in arms about AL recent behavior, were, just a few months ago, his staunchest defenders.

I don't tell anyone how to think and I don't think anyone is going to tell me how to think.
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Dukie
Fifth Love

United Kingdom
410 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  00:58:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw Love at Colston Hall, Bristol on the '74 tour and they were definitely a bit ragged.... the recording that I have of the show is of poor quality.The show wasn't particularly well attended as I recall and there was very little interaction between band and audience(the bass player was Robert Rozelle and the manager's surname was Reilly, I believe).
They toured again in 1975 and I saw three of these shows (Birmingham, Salisbury and the Lyceum in London) and this time around the band was Arthur plus John Sterling on guitar, Kim Kesterson on bass and the mighty George Suranovich on drums(and they were pretty tight and a lot more together).I spoke to the manager before and after the Brum show and was invited in to the dressing room after the show to meet the band. I was told I could probably interview Arthur sometime during the tour but when I enquired before the Lyceum show(which was great, by the way), I was told that Arthur wasn't doing any interviews and I believe that the tour finished after the London show and some dates after London were not fulfilled.I spoke to the two people running the desk at the Salisbury and London shows... was Harvey still around then?..I have seen shows on all of Arthur's visits to the U.K. except the first one in 1970 unfortunately, but I managed to do a telephone interview with Gary Rowles (lead guitar on that tour) for "The Castle" fanzine a few years ago(I also interviewed Jay Donellan for "The Castle" around that time as well)
I am always looking to extend my collection of Love recordings, so get in touch if you have anything interesting.Thanks.
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harvey
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
155 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  01:56:50  Show Profile  Send harvey a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to be so late on the scene . I may be able to fix a Vox amp in the pitch dark or find out why all the P.A. just went dead in front of thousands of festival fans but when my outgoing internet connection packs up I find I know B... all about computers and it takes some time to get it working again. I have been monitoring this site for some months since I got my first internet computer (dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century!)and as soon as I got a connection with a new board in the computer I thought I had better crawl out from under the pile of old speakers and amps and drum kits I call home. The only Lizzy roadie I knew was Pete G..s who I believe also worked for the Who but I expect it is someone else. The Roundhouse gig we did on the 1974 tour was on 19th May and I do not think Arthur and Love played that gig. I know Casablanca played and one of the other acts was the Keef Hartley band.I remember one of the other acts had an all female road crew which I believe was one of the first and I seem to remember we got them Ice creams from the very special shop at the foot of the hill opposite the Roundhouse (Ginellis or something) and then got lumbered into helping them get keyboards and speakers in and out of their truck and we had just driven 240 miles overnight ( shared between 2 of us as one of the crew did not have a driving licence) from the Lancaster University gig which had finished late as Arthur was avoiding the student press. (see above) and as it was a Sunday the Roundhouse gig was an afternoon and evening gig with several bands so we were totally knackered. Luckily we were staying a few yards away in Hampstead so we did not have far to go after the gig. We were also staying in a squat in Finchley in a house that is probably worth millions now but was wrecked then no electric, no water, most of the windows and doors out. Luckily we got the monday off but tuesday was fun as it was at the University of East Anglia, Norwich during the student unrest when all Universities had their entrances blockaded in protest about something and we had to spend a long time arguing before they would let us drive the truck in. Must have looked funny one bunch of long haired ugly roadies arguing with a bunch of long haired ugly students. Only in the 70's. Sorry have only just spotted message from Dukie. The wednesday 8th of May 74 gig at the Colston Hall was the first gig of the tour and we had only met Arthur and the band that afternoon. I nearly knocked Joe Blockers teeth out adjusting the boom vocal mike over the kit and that was the first time any of the crew had worked with that P.A. rig and at the changeover between the two bands the sound engineer told me to pull out the mic leads in the stagebox that had white tape on, however all the plugs had white tape on and it took us some time to go through all the channels and re-plug everything which could have been why Arthur and the band sounded a bit off. I only worked with Arthur on the 74 tour I know he toured again later in the 70's but when and where I do not know and I didnt get to see him. The crowd at Colston was a bit small and we had been told to get people in I met a guy from my old tech college in W. London and asked him to get any mates to come along. As I have said before I do not think Arthur was that well known here then. But they went mad over Casablanca and were shouting for more as I remember.
In answer to other matters I would not dare tell Arthur how to run his life I would be too scared as other members of Casablanca had seen what he carried.
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Dukie
Fifth Love

United Kingdom
410 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  16:02:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love toured the U.K. in '70,'74 and'75 and then Arthur didn't return here until 1992 with Shack as his backing band.
Harvey, if you worked with Thin lizzy then you must have known my friend Chalkie Davies (photographer)?
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harvey
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
155 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  18:39:53  Show Profile  Send harvey a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
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No I never worked for Thin lizzy I just new pete who worked for them and was a local bloke in S.W. London
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waxburn
Old Love

USA
735 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  18:45:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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No I never worked for Thin lizzy I just new pete who worked for them and was a local bloke in S.W. London




Harvey, did anyone find out why that fellow came thru and punched Arthur without reason?
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harvey
Fourth Love

United Kingdom
155 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2005 :  00:26:59  Show Profile  Send harvey a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
No but he was quite young and did not look english and spoke with a foreign accent possibly dutch but didnt say anything before he hit Arthur, he only spoke after when I handed him to the security guys on the door. Arthur did not react as though he knew who he was and just said he was O.K. and went offstage to the dressing room. We asked Boss who ran Dingwalls if he knew him or had any similar events but he said no. Arthur did the big gig at the Rainbow the next night with no ill effects so no harm done.
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bob f.
Old Love

USA
1308 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2005 :  04:29:49  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
i was at a LOVE show in about '76-'77 in downtown L.A. Arthur and band played, and so did the GO-GOS! this was in those early "punk" days, and all i remember is "7 and 7 is", some GO-GOS, me loaded beyond repair, and a sort of dank, seedy atmosphere. i went to see LOVE, and missed a lot of it 'cause i was fooked up on a qualude and liquor. does ANYONE know about that concert? someone must know!
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