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underture
Fifth Love

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Posted - 19/06/2013 :  20:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Piggybacking LK's Bogart thread brings up this train of thought I had when watching a Bogart movie, or anything else that might be considered "classic". Specifically, one thing the movies and TV shows did back then that absolutely blows away anything today is the incidental or background music. For example, watch a movie made today and it is just excruciating sometimes the loud techno junk they blast away to help paint whatever the scene is happening. Just abuse on one's ears. For contrast, watch any Bogart movie and the incidental music flows with the scene effortlessly, and it helps emphasize whatever action is happening, be it romantic, danger or whatever. The music aides in telling the story, not something to blast away unthinkingly at you.

For TV, if you are a Star Trek fan (as an example), try listening to how great the background music is. Without it, it is a much lesser show. Or pick any other show from the past. Point being, try listening to the music of these greats and you will see how music then was eons ahead of what is done now.

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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 21/06/2013 :  13:54:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good subject...

Along with the great scores to the classic movies, many times, great classical works were used as a backdrop to those great movies.

The best introduction to the great classics were through our Saturday morning TV fare...Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, the REAL Disney...they all employed great symphonic and operatic works that expanded our musical tastes without us even realizing it: unlike the candy coated drivel or inanely tasteless crap that the current Kiddie stations air.

Instead of treating the kids like little beings with quick minds that want expanding (the reason we still can enjoy a good Bugs Bunny outing with its grown-up satiric wit), the cartoons of today seem bent on rotting the youngest kids' brains and ensnaring them in the gotta-have-that-right-now state of mind.... instead of enriching them.

Shallow consumerism engrained by the age of four...ahhhh, what a world.

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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 24/06/2013 :  21:48:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow...I was just thinking about this theme a few days when watching Peyton Place. I was very attentive to the background music (done by Waxman). The music in my estimation was incredible in that it sure captured the mood and and spirit of the time, both within the movie and outside of it. It got to the point where I'm hunting for it. Absolutely beautiful music. I have to say today's film music is so 'artificial' to me. There are exceptions but they are few and far between in my humble opinion. We have a different society today. Consumerist and a penchant for the here and now. Well you figure the music has to suffer as well. Make it quick and make more more more. All the more reason all of it is d-i-s-p-o-s-a-b-l-e....
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underture
Fifth Love

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Posted - 25/06/2013 :  16:07:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have Hulu or MEtv, or even Youtube, try watching Peter Gunn. Henry Mancini does a fantastic job with a kind of West Coast, TV noir cool jazz accompaning music. I don't think it was an accident that they made Gunn's girlfriend a jazz singer in the show-more the way to get the moody music into the plot. Great show even without the music; kind of Bogey-esque.

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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 26/06/2013 :  16:58:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right..thanks..that's the style..love it....on the hunt!...

Other stuff that people around here might have listened to is that 'sound' from the 60's that's usually in my head. Bit of strings, done 'smoothly' (I guess like Mantovani????) John Barry in his 60's compositions seems to get that sound. When you hear it man you're right smack dab in those times. Nothing like music to take you back to a different time...
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