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Joe Morris
Old Love

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Posted - 25/04/2011 :  19:09:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think its Catch 22 From Outer Space!

free the Ed Woods!
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 25/04/2011 :  22:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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hey joe!..if I can ask why do u read 22 every summer???


That was sweet disorder, rocker. But I can relate. Why does a book or movie strike one so deeply as one or two works sometimes do. I have watched Harvey too many times to count! "I prefer you too, Harvey".




And I've read Tolkien or browsed Tolkien at least several times a year since 1966...go figure... Tolkien's portrait of Middle Earth was the first save the planet & revere the earth revelation for me. Tom Bombadil may have been the original tree hugger & protector-of-all-life warrior; after all, he was the first-- the oldest & wisest-- wasn't he?








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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 26/04/2011 :  14:22:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thx for the heads up lk..the Easter bunny hit me with an egg..

LoTR was something,eh? Tolkien had a hit with that one. He transported us into another world and I fell in too back then. heh heh i didn't need the movie at all to 'see" the Shire. It was all in my head. But anyway I thought the films were real good. They didn't mess up the franchise up like I think they did with '300'.... Unfortunately I'm not too enamored of it. I guess I was looking for a more straight-forward film. I love the history but its treatment didn't sit well with me. And I know it was a hit. Well diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks!
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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 26/04/2011 :  15:57:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm far from the most literary well read man in the world and can see I'm in intellectually superior company at least in the area of producing several marvelous quotaions by some very witty peoples past and present.However,at least one that always sticks in my mind that I can easily apply to my life is the classic Groucho Marx,"I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member." I also kind of like one by Groucho student Woody Allen. He once said "I don't want to achieve immortality through my comedy.I want to ahieve it through not dying".Wonderful potential for universal application.Just substitute your field of endeavor for his and this one could stand for anyone who likes to....NOT DIE!!
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 26/04/2011 :  17:48:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by rocker

thx for the heads up lk..the Easter bunny hit me with an egg..

LoTR was something,eh? Tolkien had a hit with that one. He transported us into another world and I fell in too back then. heh heh i didn't need the movie at all to 'see" the Shire. It was all in my head. But anyway I thought the films were real good. They didn't mess up the franchise up like I think they did with '300'.... Unfortunately I'm not too enamored of it. I guess I was looking for a more straight-forward film. I love the history but its treatment didn't sit well with me. And I know it was a hit. Well diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks!

I have never watched the RINGS movies and never will....nor the upcoming HOBBIT on the big screen.

I tried--but as you said rocker, we have every detail in our heads. I know exactly what Bilbo or Sam or Gandalf looks like, I've been in the Old Forest and hidden in Mordor....I know every hair on Gollum's head and it ain't pretty.

The trouble is I DID try, for about the first half of the first movie, but the unnecessary plot changes--how Sam & Frodo met up with Pippin & Merry in Crickhollow (not in some damn field), no "conspiracy unmasked", no Old Forest, no Tom Bombadil saving them from Old Man Willow or the Barrow Downs (for me the most enduring and important parts of the Ring)! I just threw my hands up & said why the HELL did he change that!!!?? For no damn good reason!!

When I read I am in the present, I read "in pictures", and I have walked in Middle Earth, so I am still trying to get those corrupt film images out of my head!!

So I watch "Harvey",..... or "Way Out West" with Stan & Ollie!!
Now that's film the way it should be!!







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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 26/04/2011 :  20:38:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have never watched the RINGS movies and never will....nor the upcoming HOBBIT on the big screen.

Oh yeah I can see that very well. I can see that you got really into TLOTR. I'm the same with some films especially the stop-motion of Ray Harryhausen and tim Burton. I kind of don't want to know how they did everything either. Just ruins everything in the head already!

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rocker
Old Love

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Posted - 26/04/2011 :  20:40:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and time to watch "Sons of the Desert" for the 10,000th time...

heh heh..took me a while to realize what a "convention" was really for back in those days!!!....

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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 26/04/2011 :  21:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

and time to watch "Sons of the Desert" for the 10,000th time...

heh heh..took me a while to realize what a "convention" was really for back in those days!!!....



And then some...Flying Deuces

Ollie: "When you die, what would you like to come back as?"
Stan: "I'd come back as myself".
Ollie "You can't do THAT!"

Of course Stan does come back as himself, while Ollie comes back as his choice...a horse! Complete with a moustache and derby....

"Well here's another fine mess you've gotten me into!"



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Joe Morris
Old Love

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Posted - 26/04/2011 :  22:37:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frodo was alive but taken by the Enemy
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captain america and billy
Old Love

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Posted - 27/04/2011 :  19:28:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love the old Laurel and Hardys since I could walk.Timeless as the Marx. Bros. and Chaplin.Interestingly,Stan Laurel began as a cowboy in silent Hal Roach movies,and apparently he and Hardy never got along.Unlike organically formed teams like Abbot and Costello,they were merely paired up by the studio for shorts while both under contract.
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The sweet disorder
Fourth Love

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Posted - 27/04/2011 :  23:23:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Rocker

I couldn't really tell you why I read Catch 22 every year.In many ways the characters have become old friends and it's just life affirming to read a book of that quality in the summer usually with a cold beer. However as for his second book "Something Happened" - shocking really as nothing happens at any point. It's a bit like watching the Godfather 3!!

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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 27/04/2011 :  23:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by captain america and billy

Love the old Laurel and Hardys since I could walk.Timeless as the Marx. Bros. and Chaplin.Interestingly,Stan Laurel began as a cowboy in silent Hal Roach movies,and apparently he and Hardy never got along.Unlike organically formed teams like Abbot and Costello,they were merely paired up by the studio for shorts while both under contract.

Maybe.....though, Ollie's wife related that after he'd had a stroke, unable to speak & confined to his room, Ollie got many visits from Stan, & for hours Stan & Ollie would pantomime conversations, giving Ollie much joy in his last years. The laughter was still there. My impression is they were the kind souls in life, just like they portrayed in film. Maybe not fast friends in their heyday, but that seems to have changed at the end....

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Edited by - lemonade kid on 27/04/2011 23:45:47
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captain america and billy
Old Love

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Posted - 28/04/2011 :  16:10:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess when you've been through alot of hard work that really paid off together,in the end personal differences may be laid to rest.Wish this could have been the case with the Beatles' split!
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Joe Morris
Old Love

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Posted - 30/04/2011 :  00:22:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how bad is Big Noise (Laurel and Hardy) btw?

I'm intrigued that Mccarey did a film with L&H called Duck Soup, before the Marx Brothers did their (1930s) film of the same title

Probably similar comedy styles, though I've never seen any Laurel and Hardy films on TCM of late!
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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 30/04/2011 :  02:06:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Joe Morris

how bad is Big Noise (Laurel and Hardy) btw?

I'm intrigued that Mccarey did a film with L&H called Duck Soup, before the Marx Brothers did their (1930s) film of the same title

Probably similar comedy styles, though I've never seen any Laurel and Hardy films on TCM of late!

Maybe they'll do another 24 hour marathon like they did a few years ago.

Big Noise has some funny moments but it's more of a war propaganda film like so many poor films with that theme from that time.



After spending the rest of the 1940s performing on stage in Europe, Laurel and Hardy made one final film together in 1950. Atoll K, later reissued in abridged form in the United States as Utopia, released in 1954, was a French-Italian co-production directed by Leo Joannon, which was plagued by language barriers, production problems, and both Laurel and Hardy's grave health issues during shooting. Hardy began to lose weight precipitously and developed an irregular heartbeat while Laurel experienced painful prostate complications.[21] Critics were disappointed with its storyline, English dubbing, and Laurel's sickly physical appearance with his weight down to 114 pounds (52 kg; 8.1 st).[18] The film was not a success, and brought an end to Laurel and Hardy's film careers, yet due to copyright problems in the United States, the film became available under the provisions of public domain, and was widely distributed by small distributors, remaining the most easily available of the team's features.[21]


In 1955, Laurel and Hardy made their final public appearance together, taking part in a BBC television program about the Grand Order of Water Rats, the British variety organization, titled This is Music Hall. Laurel and Hardy provide a filmed insert during which they reminisce about their friends in British variety. They made their final appearance on camera in 1956 in a home movie titled "One Moment Please". The film was shot by a family friend at Stan's home, it is without audio and lasts three minutes.

Under doctor's orders to improve a heart condition, Hardy lost over 100 pounds (45 kg; 7.1 st) in 1956. Several strokes (that some doctors partly attribute to the rapid weight loss) resulted in loss of mobility and speech. He died of a major stroke on August 7, 1957. Longtime friend Bob Chatterton said Hardy weighed just 138 pounds (63 kg; 9.9 st) at the time of his death. A depressed Laurel did not attend his partner's funeral, due to his own ill health, explaining his absence with the line "Babe would understand." Hardy was laid to rest at Pierce Brothers Valhalla Memorial Park, North Hollywood.[23]



Just after Hardy's death, Laurel and Hardy returned to movie theaters, as clips of their work were featured in Robert Youngson's silent-film compilation The Golden Age of Comedy. For the remaining eight years of his life, Stan Laurel refused to perform, even turning down Stanley Kramer's offer to make a cameo in his landmark 1963 movie, It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. In 1960, Laurel was given a special Academy Award for his contributions to film comedy. Despite not appearing onscreen after Hardy's death, Laurel did contribute gags to several comedy filmmakers. He also kept his comedic instincts and skills sharp by continuing to write "Laurel and Hardy" gags and scenarios, even though he knew they would never be performed and would seldom be shared with anyone other than close friends and associates. Most of his writing was in the form of correspondence; he insisted on answering every fan letter personally. Late in life, he hosted many visitors of the new generation of comedians and celebrities, including Dick Cavett, Jerry Lewis, Peter Sellers, Marcel Marceau and Dick Van Dyke. Laurel lived until 1965, surviving to see the duo's work rediscovered through television and classic film revivals. He died on February 23 in Santa Monica, and is buried at Forest Lawn-Hollywood Hills in Los Angeles, California.[24]


Whatever the rumors, "Babe" & Stan were fast friends to the end, and beyond.

A later film, Chump At Oxford, is still one of my favorites.


Here is a late picture of the two....Hardy having lost too much weight too fast suffered several strokes.











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Edited by - lemonade kid on 30/04/2011 02:07:45
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