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Joe Morris
Old Love

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Posted - 29/09/2010 :  23:20:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the lyrics on Forever Changes are SO overrated

yeah its pretty bad. Kind of a bore to read, just not very interesting or very well tied together. Believe me, as an English major, you learn to write bits on James Joyces Ulysses and Keats and the Romantics, try to make it SOMEWHAT coherent

There wasn't really very much on the album for a start. Its cool that Arthur saw with Echols that film that had the line "We're all normal when we want our freedom" or whatever it is. I just didn't catch how this book was really related to Love

What would've worked better is a discussion of the album sessions, how the Wrecking Crew started off the album as Love, then the real Love came in, became Love, and promptly self destructed after the "Your mind and we" single. That would have been a lot more interesting to me

Not as bad as the Music From Big Pink published by 33 1/3 ... a novella! (YIKES!!)

but pretty ghastly a read nonetheless. The books on the Kinks (Village Green Preservation Society) and the Pink Floyd (Piper at the gates of dawn) are far superior. I think I even liked the Who one on Sell Out (although the Who themselves didn't actually sell out until the Its Hard tour!)
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Joe Morris
Old Love

3492 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  15:51:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Marat de sade" or whatever it was, that the "we're all normal when we want our freedom"

I remember Echols and Arthur went to see it

I remember reading the 33 1/3 book and thinking all the way,
"What the hell is he yammering on about?"

I really should do a video review of the tome on Amazon, just making fun of it and throwing the book around
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rocker
Old Love

USA
3606 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  19:40:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heh heh if Hultkrans is going to do another book maybe he should check this place out first before he publishes, eh??????......;-).....

On the 33 1/3 books..I've got Whoe Sell Out, Forever Changes, Gilded Palace of Sin (The Burritos!!), Velvet Underground and Nico, Notorious Byrd Bros and Let it Be. As noted, there's some claptrap in them but also some good insights to help you appreciate the stuff
all those musicians took time to make.
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LeeRob
Fifth Love

397 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  19:53:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate the book, and I've never even read it!

It's all the same day.
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Joe Morris
Old Love

3492 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  22:18:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like how the author of the Byrds one (Notorious Byrd Brothers - probably their best) got to see the band in the studio

can't believe Let It Be isn't out on dvd yet. Most libraries don't even have the video of that film anymore!
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John E
Fifth Love

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  00:12:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't believe that so few people here like this book. It's a while since I read it, but I thought it was excellent. It's the only thing I've read that really attempts to penetrate Arthur's more obscure writing. I thought the part that associates some of Arthur's phrases with gnosticism was particularly insightful. In the light of this, lines like "trapped insight a night, but I'm a day" and "and I'm wrapped in my armour, but my things are material" really come alive. I thought the part on De Sade very interesting too. I'd say that Hulkran's book is a worthy companion to Einarson's because it attempts something quite different.

Edited by - John E on 01/10/2010 00:31:21
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TJSAbass
Fourth Love

USA
139 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  00:39:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I liked this book, just because it made me look at FC in a different way. It may be utter claptrap, but it is interesting that someone could pull all this stuff out of FC. I couldn't really picture Arthur sitting around doing all that reading though. But hey, I didn't know him personally. They say Jim Morrison did alot of reading, and some of his writing is pretty sophomoric; especially the middle period. Funny how that works!
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Joe Morris
Old Love

3492 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  02:46:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
footage from Jims HWY film turned up in the recent People are Strange film

its good,just not as good as Pirate Radio though!
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