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myoungish
Fifth Love
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 Posted - 05/09/2007 : 08:09:23
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I don't know about anyone else, but I do wonder what Dr. Lee was up to from...say... 1972 to 1992. I mean, obviously there was some serious inertia going on (and various forms of fortification)...but does anyone have any insight or Revelation?
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Kula John
Old Love
United Kingdom
756 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2007 : 23:25:08
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Do you reckon Arthur knew?!! It's a good question though.
This is the time and this is the time and it is time, time, time, time, time, time, time.....
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kdion11
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 19:10:04
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Originally posted by myoungish
I don't know about anyone else, but I do wonder what Dr. Lee was up to from...say... 1972 to 1992. I mean, obviously there was some serious inertia going on (and various forms of fortification)...but does anyone have any insight or Revelation?
Michael Young
KD: Well at the SF show at Bimbo's in 2002 or whenever it was,
Arthur dedicated Everybody's got to Live to "his hero" John Lennon.
He went on to say that he was in LA County Jail when he saw the news of Lennon's murder on TV !
That of course was in Dec 1980 - fill in the blanks.
Free the blanks ! |
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myoungish
Fifth Love
USA
264 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 23:34:58
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Free the blanks, indeed....and a great point, Kula John ("do you reckon Arthur knew?")...The only other big-time musicians I can think of with so many wilderness years are Sly and Syd.
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jazmaan
Fifth Love
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 06:45:45
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I was there. Arthur was actually pretty active on the L.A. club circuit. Those were tough times for 60's legends. But Arthur wasn't much interested in his 60's legacy during those years anyway. Orange Skies and Little Red Book were mainstays but he was just as likely to play "Mr. Lee" or "With a Little Energy". He was playing Madame Wong's, The Hong Kong Cafe, Music Machine and similar clubs around town. John Sterling and Melvin Whittington were his guitarists. When they both showed up to play those shows were musically exciting. But half the time one of them wouldn't show.
Some of my best times with Arthur happened during those years. Arthur was a big fight fan and he always had pay-per-view parties. Leonard-Hearns, Leonard-Hagler, Leonard-Duran -- I saw all those fights at Arthur's house in Sun Valley. Those were the days! |
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myoungish
Fifth Love
USA
264 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 09:23:02
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Wow, jazzman. That's what I'm talking about! Thanx. It's still hard for me to imagine that the same guy who wrote A House Is Not A Motel could also sit around on a lazy Saturday afternoon watching boxing on pay-per-view. He was such a peculiar mix of brilliant and enigmatic surrealism..... and down-home all-Americanism.
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/09/2007 : 12:20:17
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Originally posted by jazmaan
Arthur was actually pretty active on the L.A. club circuit. Those were tough times for 60's legends. But Arthur wasn't much interested in his 60's legacy during those years anyway.
I think this is often the case with former group members (or leaders) who by the 1970s had major and critically acclaimed bodies of work behind them. 'The Solo Years' is the title of a chapter that has been written in the histories of any number of groups who had been truly innovative during the 1960s. During this later phase though they tend to see their solo albums as the really important ones whilst downplaying the significance of their truly great work. It is often only decades later that they come to recognise their own true musical legacy. I think (and this is an entirely personal view) that the 1960s people who were doing best in the mid 70s were those whose songwriting had been always been so prolific that it could never adequately be contained within the confines of a group. Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell and Neil Young I would count as examples. Their albums from this time are still counted as being amongst their most dynamic and forward looking and thus they stand proudly alongside their earlier classics.
This said, I remember the 1975 touring incarnation of Love as being a remarkably tight, focussed and professional band who treated us all to a joyous celebration of so many classic songs. I still think that their version of 'Alone Again Or' was the best I've ever heard - but then I've always been easy prey for the nostalgia bug! |
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Merlyn Merlot
Fourth Love
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2007 : 21:49:42
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[quote]Originally posted by jazmaan
I was there. Arthur was actually pretty active on the L.A. club circuit. Those were tough times for 60's legends. But Arthur wasn't much interested in his 60's legacy during those years anyway. Orange Skies and Little Red Book were mainstays but he was just as likely to play "Mr. Lee" or "With a Little Energy". He was playing Madame Wong's, The Hong Kong Cafe, Music Machine and similar clubs around town. John Sterling and Melvin Whittington were his guitarists. When they both showed up to play those shows were musically exciting. But half the time one of them wouldn't show."
I saw 3 Great shows in the 80's
One my bands at the time
Andy and the Rattlesnakes
Opened for Love at Wong's Chinatown
another time at the same club
i saw Sterling who I grew up with in Las Vegas
and The amazing Bruce Gary play a mega set with Love
and a 3rd show @ The universal where Arthur was in Top form
I also want to say the 3 times i had conversations with the man
he was always funny and focussed Peace in
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bob f.
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2007 : 22:40:09
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i remember (a little!) being at a late '70s show in downtown L.A.
LOVE, and The GO-GOS!
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jazmaan
Fifth Love
USA
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 03:00:22
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| I booked Love into that Madame Wong's gig (and all his other gigs around that time period), so I'm sure I must have seen your band that night! |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 14:22:11
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..the "quiet" years...I've always wondered why Arthur didn't do a "Chronicles" kind of thing like Dylan did. To me, he was a pretty good song writer who knew how to express himself in a unique way. Yet he never put anything down. Not sure if he was lazy, didn't care about his "legacy" or what but it would've been good to know he saw things in those days and where we're are all goin' to. (Arthur could've made it entertaining too because I think he could be hilarious as well as serious. I never met him but I think he could crack me up.. ) |
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scully
Fourth Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 13:55:30
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Originally posted by jazmaan
Some of my best times with Arthur happened during those years. Arthur was a big fight fan and he always had pay-per-view parties. Leonard-Hearns, Leonard-Hagler, Leonard-Duran -- I saw all those fights at Arthur's house in Sun Valley. Those were the days!
Some great fighters around at that time, especially welterweight/middleweight. Do you recall if Arthur have a favourite? |
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kdion11
Old Love
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2007 : 21:57:39
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Originally posted by scully
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Originally posted by jazmaan
Some of my best times with Arthur happened during those years. Arthur was a big fight fan and he always had pay-per-view parties. Leonard-Hearns, Leonard-Hagler, Leonard-Duran -- I saw all those fights at Arthur's house in Sun Valley. Those were the days!
Some great fighters around at that time, especially welterweight/middleweight. Do you recall if Arthur have a favourite?
KD: All this talk about boxing reminds me of that great Celbrity
Death Match: Arthur "Pistol Whipping" Lee vs. Buddy "Crack Thief" Miles - of course staged as the main event to the 60th Birthday
Bash for Jimi Hendrix in LA at BB King's.
What a night ! DING !
Free the fights !
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myoungish
Fifth Love
USA
264 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2007 : 08:10:25
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I likes, kdion. The mighty Lee vs. Buddy Miles is one for the ages!...Okay, concerning Arthur's quiet years, another thing that befuddles me is the fuzziness and lack of solid biography surrounding some absolutely monumental recordings. For instance: who was the horn section for that little mind-blowing gem called Always See Your Face? And it seems as if nobody is really clear on who really played on the mighty and profoundly underrated, under-anthologized song called Your Mind and We Belong Together.....And of course I refuse to re-open the mysterious can of words called Gesthemane, in which at least ten songs were actually given names (including 4(!) supposedly co-written by Lee/MacLean.
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Chris@StartProductions
First Love
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Posted - 12/09/2007 : 12:48:16
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Originally posted by scully
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Originally posted by jazmaan
Some of my best times with Arthur happened during those years. Arthur was a big fight fan and he always had pay-per-view parties. Leonard-Hearns, Leonard-Hagler, Leonard-Duran -- I saw all those fights at Arthur's house in Sun Valley. Those were the days!
Some great fighters around at that time, especially welterweight/middleweight. Do you recall if Arthur have a favourite?
Arthur told us he was at the 'infamous' second Ali versus Sonny Liston fight. Said he went in and his step-father was trying to park the car, by the time he'd parked it and got to his seat, the fight was over!
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