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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 23/06/2008 :  18:23:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by rocker



..and so what's your best country-rock song with pedal steel, eh?????...;-)....


that's a good one.....there are some good ones on Steven Sills & Manassas' first LP....maybe not stellar, but memorable.

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bob f.
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 24/06/2008 :  04:10:16  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
my favotie songs with pedal steel?
white line fever- flying burrito brothers
close up the honky tonks- chris hillman's bakersfield bound cd
wickory wind- the byrds
here tonight-flying burrito brothers
lay lady lay- dylan
honerable mention goes to " don't bogart that joint"

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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9450 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2008 :  04:20:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob f.

my favotie songs with pedal steel?
white line fever- flying burrito brothers
close up the honky tonks- chris hillman's bakersfield bound cd
wickory wind- the byrds
here tonight-flying burrito brothers
lay lady lay- dylan
honerable mention goes to " don't bogart that joint"

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There are some good ones on Sweetheart Of The Rodeo!

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ed the bear
Fourth Love

USA
215 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2008 :  04:51:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Sweetheart of the Rodeo


Can't let that go by and not mention "Nothing Was Delivered."
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rocker
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 24/06/2008 :  14:02:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent choices. And SWOTR is my favorite country-rock record. Now one I'll plug is Desert Rose Band's first lp..The great Jay D Maness is on there and the band is country-tight.I think Hillman took all he learned from the Byrds, Burritos and brought it all down-home. One thing I liked with DRB is that the pedal steel was really used alot and not just as background.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9450 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2008 :  05:02:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob f.

my favotie songs with pedal steel?
white line fever- flying burrito brothers
close up the honky tonks- chris hillman's bakersfield bound cd
wickory wind- the byrds
here tonight-flying burrito brothers
lay lady lay- dylan
honerable mention goes to " don't bogart that joint"

...what the world needs now...


I've never heard it, but I recently read that Michael Nesmith's , "And The Hits Just Keep On Comin' ",
is fantastic. It features only Nesmith on guitar & the great Red Rhodes on pedal steel. Should have
pedal steel right out front throughout!

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Edited by - lemonade kid on 25/06/2008 05:04:45
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bob f.
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 26/06/2008 :  02:58:35  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
i, too, have always been dissapointed and pissed, at the general use of pedal steel guitar as mainly a background/ ambience addition on country/western recordings. pedal steel seems to be a taboo sound for many producers/musicians, who want the sound, but not that much, so they just sheepishly try to allow a little of the wonderful multi-dimensional cosmic harmonic magic of the pedal steel in a watered down form, far off in the mix, and mostly playing only one string and without the bending pedal effect. the result sounds like could have been good, but is pedal steel lite. when it is allowed to be heard proudly upfront in the mix, and artistically played utilizing all of its technology,(which is not an easy feat!), the results are breathtaking! FREE THE PEDAL STEEL GUITAR!
an observation: i want to hear non country/western use of the pedal steel, also. rock out. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and others have often touched that sound with only great guitar art, alluding to the pedal steel effect. it can be achieved, and i realize that the instrument is very difficult to play properly, hence, not a lot of good players.
i guess this post belongs in the music 101 thread instead but the pedal steel topic here has me revved up!

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bob f.
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 26/06/2008 :  02:59:06  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
i, too, have always been dissapointed and pissed, at the general use of pedal steel guitar as mainly a background/ ambience addition on country/western recordings. pedal steel seems to be a taboo sound for many producers/musicians, who want the sound, but not that much, so they just sheepishly try to allow a little of the wonderful multi-dimensional cosmic harmonic magic of the pedal steel in a watered down form, far off in the mix, and mostly playing only one string and without the bending pedal effect. the result sounds like could have been good, but is pedal steel lite. when it is allowed to be heard proudly upfront in the mix, and artistically played utilizing all of its technology,(which is not an easy feat!), the results are breathtaking! FREE THE PEDAL STEEL GUITAR!
an observation: i want to hear non country/western use of the pedal steel, also. rock out. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and others have often touched that sound with only great guitar art, alluding to the pedal steel effect. it can be achieved, and i realize that the instrument is very difficult to play properly, hence, not a lot of good players.
i guess this post belongs in the music 101 thread instead but the pedal steel topic here has me revved up!

...what the world needs now...
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9450 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2008 :  04:45:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob f.

i, too, have always been dissapointed and pissed, at the general use of pedal steel guitar as mainly a background/ ambience addition on country/western recordings. pedal steel seems to be a taboo sound for many producers/musicians, who want the sound, but not that much, so they just sheepishly try to allow a little of the wonderful multi-dimensional cosmic harmonic magic of the pedal steel in a watered down form, far off in the mix, and mostly playing only one string and without the bending pedal effect. the result sounds like could have been good, but is pedal steel lite. when it is allowed to be heard proudly upfront in the mix, and artistically played utilizing all of its technology,(which is not an easy feat!), the results are breathtaking! FREE THE PEDAL STEEL GUITAR!
an observation: i want to hear non country/western use of the pedal steel, also. rock out. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and others have often touched that sound with only great guitar art, alluding to the pedal steel effect. it can be achieved, and i realize that the instrument is very difficult to play properly, hence, not a lot of good players.
i guess this post belongs in the music 101 thread instead but the pedal steel topic here has me revved up!

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Me too, bob f. Go to Music appreciation 101 for more comments.

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rocker
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 26/06/2008 :  14:20:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bob/lk.A few years ago I had a correspondence with Desert Rose's manager and he lamented the decreasing use of the steel in country-recordings. He felt Nashville in its quest for a more "modern country sound" wanted to get away from that "sound" which, of course, had alot of connotations with the "old country" way of putting songs together. Talk about being pissed....;-). He noted that the DRB were an answer to the stuff then that was on country radio. I don't listen at all to country radio today but I'd be surprised if the steel was high up in the mix.
And bob f in "music appreciation" thread, I noted Brian Eno who I thought was a non-country guy using the steel. I think he used it on his "Apollo" soundtrack but I'm not sure if it was a steel. Sure soudned like one though!
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Irish Barry
First Love

Ireland
10 Posts

Posted - 30/06/2008 :  23:45:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Captain Beefheart - Abba Zabba from "Safe As Milk"
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9450 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2008 :  23:38:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
James McMurtry "Can't Make It Here Anymore" !!

If you haven't discovered this roots rock artist (ya, son of Larry M....Lonesome Dove, etc author)......
He's a great artist that has had his last two LPs make album of the year on some indie record lists.

See below for a free download of his seven minute song (above), please check this one out!!!! I haven't played
this for anyone that hasn't been taken by it. Then go to his site for more. His band, The Heartless Bastards,
was enough to get me to check him out.

http://www.compadrerecords.com/downloadpages/wecant.html



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bob f.
Old Love

USA
1308 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2008 :  04:09:25  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
Robert Plant/Alison Krauss's cd. who whoulda thought? it's beautiful, their voices blend , with two Gene Clark songs, some pedal steel/fiddle, and magical soul. there are some good recent music, and this is one, beside the new Levon Helm! cheers!

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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9450 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2008 :  19:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob f.

Robert Plant/Alison Krauss's cd. who whoulda thought? it's beautiful, their voices blend , with two Gene Clark songs, some pedal steel/fiddle, and magical soul. there are some good recent music, and this is one, beside the new Levon Helm! cheers!

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That is a great duo, bf!! Gene ( my all time favorite singer/song writer...truly) is always the most under appreciated
by the public & most highly respected by the music world....love his stuff.
And Levon Helm is my favorite drummer/singer, TRULY.....such a unique, rhythmic beat.....no one like him. I'd call his
style ...off-beat. What a voice that goes right to my soul. Didn't know he had a new one out. Thanks, bf.

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undergroundbasement
Third Love

USA
84 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  06:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


"I just don't want you using up my time, 'cause that's not right!"
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