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lemonade kid
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 Posted - 19/06/2013 : 17:27:15
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TIM ROSE-mostly forgotten, folk-rocker
...but he created some iconic & revered covers with
Morning Dew & Hey Joe, and wrote some memorable tracks in my life's soundtrack.
Darling You Were All That I Had...from Tim's second self-titled Lp on Playboy-my personal favorite LP by Tim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCob_uRiOv8
Timothy Alan Patrick Rose (September 23, 1940 – September 24, 2002), best known professionally as Tim Rose, was an American singer-songwriter, who spent much of his life in London, England and had more success in Europe than in his native country. Known for his gruff voice, Rose was often compared to Ray Charles, Rod Stewart and Joe Cocker.
Rose was born in Washington, D.C., and raised by his mother Mary, who worked for the Army Corps of Engineers, his aunt, and his grandmother in an area known as South Fairlington Historic District, in Arlington, Virginia, where he was to meet Scott McKenzie, who lived nearby. Rose learned to play the banjo and guitar, and won the top music award in high school. Rose graduated from Gonzaga College Prep School, a noted Jesuit institution in DC, class of 1958. From there he joined the United States Air Force (in the Strategic Air Command), in the pre-Vietnam era, and was stationed in Kansas.[clarification needed] He later worked as a merchant marine on the S.S. Atlantic and in a bank, before becoming involved in the music industry.
His first band was The Singing Strings, which included his friend McKenzie, who later joined with John Phillips (eventually of The Mamas & the Papas) in a local group called The Abstracts, later The Smoothies and eventually The Journeymen. Other members of the Strings were Buck Hunnicutt, Speery Romig and Alan Stubbs. In 1962, Rose teamed up with ex-Smoothie Michael Boran as Michael and Timothy.[3] Jake Holmes, Rich Husson and Rose formed a group called The Feldmans, later known as Tim Rose and the Thorns.
The Big Three
Main article: The Big Three
In 1962 Rose met singer Cass Elliot (also eventually of The Mamas & the Papas), at a party in Georgetown, Washington, D.C., and formed a folk trio with her and singer John Brown called The Triumvirate. Later, after Brown was replaced by James (Jim) Hendricks they changed the name to The Big Three. They soon landed a job at The Bitter End, a folk club in New York's Greenwich Village.
Their success grew, with appearances on national television programs, and they recorded two albums: The Big Three (1963) and The Big Three Live at the Recording Studio (1964). Songs included "Grandfather's Clock", and an anti-war dirge written by Fred Hellerman and Fran Minkoff, "Come Away Melinda", a re-recorded version of which was one of Rose's most successful solo singles several years later. Rose and Elliot had musical differences – both were inclined to want things done their way – and the band fell apart after Elliot and Hendricks secretly married. They had appeared on a number of national television programs, including Hootenanny (1963), The Danny Kaye Show (1963), and The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson (1962).
Solo career
After The Big Three, Rose went solo, and by 1966, his prospects had improved. In November of that year, he played two gigs at the Fillmore Auditorium in San Francisco; headlining were the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane. Sony MusicCBS Records signed Rose to a multi-album record deal; the first album, Tim Rose, came out in 1967. It featured a new version of "Come Away Melinda" and "Long Time Man" (a version of the traditional "It Makes a Long Time Man Feel Bad", which was also previously recorded with The Big Three) as well as his versions of two songs that would become standards: Billy Roberts' "Hey Joe" and Bonnie Dobson's "Morning Dew". Both were released as singles, and would be further covered by many artists, from The Grateful Dead to Clannad. Backed up by a trio that included William Lewis Wexler on keyboards and flute, he played at such clubs as Basin Street West in San Francisco and Le Hibou in Ottawa, Ontario. He also played on numerous recording sessions, including backing up Eric Weissberg.
"Hey Joe"
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In 1966, he was getting a lot of airplay with his single of "Hey Joe". It was copyrighted in 1962 by singer Billy Roberts, but Rose claimed he heard it sung as a child in Florida, and as of 2009, Rose's official website still claims the song is "traditional".[4] As of 2009 no documentary evidence from US archives or elsewhere has been provided to support the claim that the song is "traditional" (though Country singer Carl Smith did have a hit in 1953 with a song of the same title written by Boudleaux Bryant). Prior to Rose's recording, The Leaves, The Surfaris, Love and The Byrds had all recorded fast-paced versions of the song. Rose's version (crediting himself as author), unlike the others, was a slow, angry ballad, which received US radio airplay and became a regional hit in the San Francisco area in 1966, as well as upstate New York cities like Buffalo and Albany. Jimi Hendrix had seen Rose performing at Cafe Wha? in New York City, and released a similarly slow version in 1966 which became a huge hit, first in the UK, then worldwide. It was Linda Keith, Keith Richards' girlfriend at the time that played Rose's recording of "Hey Joe" to Chas Chandler (Hendrix's manager and former bass player for The Animals).
Rose re-recorded "Hey Joe" in the 1990s, re-titling it "Blue Steel .44", again claiming songwriting credit.
"Morning Dew"
"Morning Dew" was to go on to become a rock standard. Rose heard Fred Neil singing a version of the song penned by Canadian folk singer Bonnie Dobson, arranged it with a harder, rock feel and added his name to the songwriting credit, although Dobson consistently questioned his right to a credit.
Follow-up works
Another CBS album, Through Rose Colored Glasses, followed in 1969. It met with critical disappointment and did not sell well. Love: A Kind of Hate Story was recorded at Island Studios in London and released in 1970. In addition to his musical career, by now Rose had moved to London and would spend much of his life there. Other albums followed in the decade: Another, different album titled Tim Rose (1972), The Musician (1975), and the bootleg Unfinished Song (1976).
In 1968, while his song "Roanoke" was getting some airplay in the UK, Rose was considered while replacements were being selected for Brian Jones's place in The Rolling Stones.
Rose worked in the late 1960s and 1970s with sidemen Bob Bowers, Felix Pappalardi, Alan Seidler, Tina Charles, Pierre Tubbs, B J Cole, Colin Winston-Fletcher, Micky Wynne, John Bonham, Aynsley Dunbar, Alex Damovsky, John McVie, Andy Summers, Eric Weissberg, Russ Kunkel, Randall Elliot, Pete Sears, and his short lived LA band featuring: Mike Baxter on Keyboards, Shelly Scott on Drums, Bob Zinner on Guitar and Larry " Fuzzy " Knight on Bass. He appeared on bills with Traffic, The Staple Singers, Stevie Wonder, Simon and Garfunkel, The Doors, Uriah Heep, Johnny Mathis, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Rod Stewart, Procol Harum, The Grateful Dead, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, The Band of Joy, and Tim Hardin.
The lost years
By the late 1970s, his career had stalled. He recorded The Gambler in 1977, with a group that included guitarist Andy Summers, only to find that the record company refused to release it. He returned to New York for a number of years, living in Hell's Kitchen on Restaurant Row, and then much later Lincoln Square near Central Park.[citation needed] Having lost his contacts in the music industry, he was forced to work as a construction laborer until an opportunity arose to sing jingles for TV commercials in early 1980.[2] Rose sang on many jingles, including Big Red Gum and Wrangler Jeans, and voiced ads for the Big Apple Circus. This work funded his much-delayed college education, which he began at the age of 40. Rose graduated in 1984 from Fordham University at Lincoln Center in Manhattan, with a degree in history.[citation needed] He became a Wall Street stockbroker and a teacher, got married, and eventually divorced. After the 1987 stock market crash, he got out of the business. He continued writing and performing at select venues, such as The Bitter End. He also battled with alcoholism.
Return
By the late 1980s, Rose had reached the lowest point in his career. After his marriage broke up, he gave up drinking. In 1986, Nick Cave included "Long Time Man", a version very close to Rose's, on the album Your Funeral, My Trial. Cave went on to assist Rose in recovering his career, and encouraged him to play live shows again.[2]
In 1991, The Gambler was finally released.[2] In 1996, encouraged by Cave and by Dutch film makers Suzan IJzermans and Jacques Laureys, he returned to Europe. Rose performed at the Guildford, and Glastonbury Festivals.[citation needed] He went on to perform at the Royal Albert Hall opening for Cave, and at the Shepherds Bush Empire and Queen Elizabeth Hall in London with co-writer and guitarist Mickey Wynne.[7] A new album, Haunted, was released with recordings from these performances as well new studio material produced by Cave.[2] He also appeared on the BBC Television show Later with Jools Holland, and performed with Robert Plant's folk-rock band, Priory of Brion.[citation needed] By the late 1990s to early 2000s, most of his back catalog had been re-released (some as double albums), and were available both in record stores and from Rose's own web site, Tim-Rose.co.uk.
Rose's American Son album
In April 2001, the Tim Rose Band was the opening act at the Bergen Blues and Jazz Festival in Norway. Jacques Laurey's biopic about Rose, Where Was I?, was premiered at the Rotterdam Film Festival in the same year. His final solo album, American Son, was released in February 2002.
Not Goin' Anywhere by Norwegian band Headwaiter, featuring four songs with lyrics by Rose and a duet with the lead singer Per Jorgenson, was released in Norway in September 2002.
Death
Funerary monument, Brompton Cemetery, London
In 2002, Rose had completed a successful tour of Ireland with cowriter and guitarist Mickey Wynne and had a number of gigs planned around the UK. He died at Middlesex Hospital, London of a heart attack during a second operation for a lower bowel problem on September 24, 2002 at age 62. He is buried in Brompton Cemetery, London.
He had no children. A number of posthumous recordings featuring Rose have since been released.
He was the subject of BBC programme Heir Hunters in November 2011, where investigators look for descendants of deceased people who didn't leave a will.
Discography
Albums
* The Big Three, 1963 - with the Big Three
* The Big Three Live at the Recording Studio, 1964 - with the Big Three
* Tim Rose, 1967
* Through Rose Colored Glasses, 1969
* Love - A Kind of Hate Story, 1970
* Tim Rose, 1972
* The Musician, 1975
* Unfinished Song, 1976
* The Gambler, 1991
* I've Got To Get A Message To You, 1987
* Haunted, 1997
* American Son, 2002
* Not Goin' Anywhere, 2002 - with [Headwaiter]
* Snowed In (The Last Recordings), 2003
* The London Sessions 1978 - 1998, 2004
* Mirage, 2004[1]
Morning Dew...the definitive version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x81dU8fEFpw
Goin' Down To Hollywood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Q5I3MMKx4
It takes A Little Longer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ereaiM2tPFs
Hey Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czovj5bCHt0
Long Time Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfBc9VldEdE
Tim on the history of Hendrix' cover of Hey joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHm_8EZ1rJE
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Old hippies never die, they just ramble on.
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Edited by - lemonade kid on 20/06/2013 14:56:38 |
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TIM ROSE-some good stuff, folk-rocker
