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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 27/09/2012 :  14:59:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike Love Sprinkles Some Bad Vibrations On Beach Boys’ Reunion Tour

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJaeva9r_g

Wouldn't it be nice...if the Beach Boys could finally all get along? Alas, it appears that the beloved icons--who have a long history of inter-band ups and downs--are not destined for peace in this lifetime. After delighting fans this year with a 50th anniversary reunion tour and album including revered frontman Brian Wilson, Mike Love has dropped a bomb on three of his surviving bandmates: He's going to continue touring without them. Under the name "The Beach Boys."

Love first made this announcement last week, when he unceremoniously stated that he planned to dump his cousin and creative lead Wilson, as well as original members Al Jardine and David Marks, to resume touring as the Beach Boys with second-generation bandmate Bruce Johnston and his own band, which he's been out with since the '90s. The story continues to gain momentum and shock fans this week, as the full lineup's final reunion shows approach. The classic Beach Boys' last two concerts will take place in London this week, on September 27 and 28.

"The 50th anniversary tour was designed to go for a year and then end," Love confirmed, at an awards presentation in front of a special Beach Boys exhibit at Los Angeles's Grammy museum. "You have to be careful not to get overexposed," he added, citing fears that interest would level off and ticket prices would fall.

Legally, Love has the right to do this as he is the sole member with control over the Beach Boys' name. However, fans are confused and upset over his decision, given that the tour and new album, That's Why God Made the Radio, have been so well-received. The album marked the band's highest charting release in nearly four decades; whereas their reunion show has played over four continents.

Wilson told CNN that he's not happy with the decision. "I'm disappointed and can't understand why Love doesn't want to tour with Al, David and me," he said. "We are out here having so much fun. After all, we are the real Beach Boys." He also noted that he would like his next project to be a Beach Boys album.

Meanwhile, Jardine has tweeted a link to a fan's petition demanding Love reconsider his decision: "It's the right thing to do, and it's what the fans want!"

That certainly seems to be true, at least if one goes by various reactions on Twitter. "Mike Love fired Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys? This makes no sense. Wilson IS the Beach Boys," stated one fan; while another noted "Mike Love's insecurities once again get the better of him in an embarrassing manner," and yet another grumbled, "Sometimes I can't find it in my heart to love Mike Love."

To those who are longtime followers of the band, it doesn't come as much of a surprise that Love is the instigator of controversy yet again. He has an infamously rocky legal history with his bandmates, compounded by the fact that Wilson suffered from mental issues throughout the decades and was often not in a position to--or had the desire to--contend.

Love's lawsuits began as early as in 1989, when he discovered that Wilson's father Murry--who managed the group in its inception--did not properly credit him for co-writing on a number of the Beach Boys' songs. Although Wilson is largely known for the bulk of songwriting, Love claimed he contributed lyrics to many of the tunes. He hit Wilson with a lawsuit in 1992 for this omission, eventually collecting $13 million for lost royalties. Wilson and Love both claimed that the suit did not rise out of or cause any animosity; it happened merely because they could not work out what Love was owed on their own.

By 1998, Love managed to gain legal control of the Beach Boys' name after founding member and youngest Wilson brother Carl Wilson died, making himself the sole licensee to perform under that billing. In 2001, he put the smackdown on bandmember Al Jardine, who had been touring with Wilson's daughters Carnie and Wendy as "The Beach Boys Family and Friends," as well as solo with the billing "Al Jardine of the Beach Boys." The court ruled in Love's favor, which Jardine instantly appealed. The case dragged on until 2008, finally reaching a confidential settlement.

In 2005, Love hit Wilson with yet another lawsuit, claiming that Wilson improperly used the Beach Boys name and images to market his solo album Smile, as well as illegally allowed a promotional giveaway of the band's Good Vibrations CD in connection to the release. He claimed at the time that Wilson was being used by his advisors for financial gain. The suit was dismissed in 2007.

Love took control of the Beach Boys' touring schedule throughout the '70s and '80s due to Wilson's unpredictable health. He led the band, which included Wilson's other brother Dennis (who died in 1983) and Carl, as well as Jardine. He began touring with his own set of musicians, including actor John Stamos, after Carl's death. Marks was a part of the band during its earliest years, reuniting with them once in 1971 and then for the present reunion tour.

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Only after the last tree has been cut down,
Only after the last river has been poisoned,
Only after the last fish has been caught,
Only then will you find money cannot be eaten.

~ Cree Prophecy

Edited by - lemonade kid on 11/10/2012 15:52:55

captain america and billy
Old Love

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Posted - 27/09/2012 :  15:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like alot of the same ol' bull&%$# that was much more the reason for the Beatles' 1970 slit than the Yoko thing.A shame.Just in plain English,a damn rotten shame.
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rocker
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 28/09/2012 :  14:25:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All this just shows music's a biz kids......lawyers and bankers just ridin' high on the creativity of a few guys who managed to put great notes together. Tough to see the discord. And not to disparage Love's talent, BW is arguably the straw that stirs the BB drink. The things that guy has gone through. He's a trooper.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 28/09/2012 :  19:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...no love for Mike Love!



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Only after the last tree has been cut down,
Only after the last river has been poisoned,
Only after the last fish has been caught,
Only then will you find money cannot be eaten.

~ Cree Prophecy
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 11/10/2012 :  15:53:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Brian Wilson says he felt blindsided by a news release from his Beach Boys band mate Mike Love that ended the good vibrations on the band's 50th anniversary tour.

Wilson answered Mike Love's recent explanation in The Los Angeles Times with a response in the newspaper Tuesday. Love says he was simply trying to clear up confusion about post-50th anniversary dates when he issued the news release, but many — including band members Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks — took the release as news of a firing.

"As far as I know I can't be fired — that wouldn't be cool," Wilson wrote in the Times. "The negativity surrounding all the comments bummed me out. What's confusing is that by Mike not wanting or letting Al, David and me tour with the band, it sort of feels like we're being fired."

The dueling newspaper notes are the latest turn in what's been an off-and-on again relationship for decades. Wilson and Love are cousins and founding members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame band that helped crystalize the California sound of the 1960s. Wilson stopped touring regularly in 1964, notes Love, who has led a version of the band on the road for the last 13 years.

As the 50th anniversary of the Beach Boys' founding approached, Wilson and Love agreed to perform with the band's surviving early members for a new album and tour. Wilson, the creative force behind many of the band's iconic hits, said everything exceeded his expectations.

"Mike kept saying throughout the tour 'The whole is greater than the sum of its parts,' and both Al and I agree, which made us all think that he wanted to continue," Wilson wrote. "We originally started out with 50 shows, but the success and the demand kept growing and we obliged. No one knew in the beginning that this was going to be so rewarding and popular with our fans. Once we got cooking we were all stoked!"

Earlier this year, the band released a new album that debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200.

Love's news release ended those feelings, though. It came just before the Beach Boys were to play the last of 75 50th anniversary shows late last month in London. Love wrote in an article that the 50th anniversary tour was always finite and that the new dates in smaller venues had long been set for the lineup toured by him.

"To avoid public confusion, and at the request of Brian's representative, we had a press release sent out detailing the differences between the two Beach Boys tours and its varying lineups," wrote Love, who noted that over a decade ago he was granted an exclusive license to tour as the "Beach Boys." ''I was surprised that Brian and Al said they were surprised by this announcement. Some media outlets interpreted all of this as me firing the band."

Wilson says the expectation was that both sides would help craft and approve the news release. That didn't happen and now he thinks it's Love's turn to reach out.

"That's it in a nutshell, all these conversations need to be between the shareholders, and I welcome Mike to call me," he wrote.

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Only after the last tree has been cut down,
Only after the last river has been poisoned,
Only after the last fish has been caught,
Only then will you find money cannot be eaten.

~ Cree Prophecy
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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2012 :  16:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Recently when I was doing my usual foray into the annals of the Strawberry Alarm Clock's official site,band member,bassist,floutist George Bunnell,who with the band toured with the Beach Boys and the Buffalo Springfield in '67 and '68 and who still has ties to the mighty surf/psychedlia act,told me that NOBODY fired Brian Wilson!Apparently,the plan all along was to get together,make an album,tour with the REAL Beach Boys for a while promoting the CD,and then Brian Wilson would take a break until either the release of the next Beach Boys CD or the next Brian Wilson solo release.Always nice to get clarification of these things from someone with ties to the Beach Boys' situational meanderings.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
9876 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2012 :  13:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by captain america and billy

Recently when I was doing my usual foray into the annals of the Strawberry Alarm Clock's official site,band member,bassist,floutist George Bunnell,who with the band toured with the Beach Boys and the Buffalo Springfield in '67 and '68 and who still has ties to the mighty surf/psychedlia act,told me that NOBODY fired Brian Wilson!Apparently,the plan all along was to get together,make an album,tour with the REAL Beach Boys for a while promoting the CD,and then Brian Wilson would take a break until either the release of the next Beach Boys CD or the next Brian Wilson solo release.Always nice to get clarification of these things from someone with ties to the Beach Boys' situational meanderings.

Maybe it's me, but I would have a tendency to believe Brian (out of affection, maybe), and not Love (based on is past infamous exploits).

But in fact, Brian didn't say he was fired...he said it "feels" like he was fired by that betrayal from Mike Love...business as usual from Love. Al Jardine said the same. Just more of the same from the ego of Mike Love.

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Only after the last tree has been cut down,
Only after the last river has been poisoned,
Only after the last fish has been caught,
Only then will you find money cannot be eaten.

~ Cree Prophecy

Edited by - lemonade kid on 12/10/2012 13:30:27
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captain america and billy
Old Love

907 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2012 :  20:12:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This topics' most tragic outcome is that these guys are SUPPOSED TO BE FREAKIN'COUSINS!!Does anyone here know whether or not Brian Wilson used to have any major rows with his now sadly deceased brothers?
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