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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 12/03/2012 :  22:45:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Often compared to early Sandy Denny's brilliant vocal work...



Brilliant & beautiful UK electric folk...finally reissued.

JADE--Marian Segal, David Waite

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* Marianne Segal (vocals, guitar, percussion),
* Dave Waite (guitar, bass, backing vocals),
* Rod Edwards (keyboards, bass, backing vocals)

Related Artists:
Edwards Hand, Dave Waite & Marianne Segal

Also Known As: Marian Segal With Silver Jade

Genres: Folk Rock

Tracks:
01. Amongst Anemones 3.53
02. Raven 2.35
03. Fly On Strangewings 4.27
04. Mayfly 3.33
05. Alan's Song 3.17
06. Bad Magic 3.18
07. Clippership 2.46
08. Five Of Us 4.06
09. Reflections On A Harbour Wall 2.32
10. Mrs Adams 3.27
11. Fly Me to the North 3.22
12. Away From The Family 4.48
13. Sepember Song Live 2 [Bonus] *
14. Big Yellow Taxi [Bonus] *
15. Carolina In My Mind [Bonus]
16. Chicago Radio Spots [Bonus]

- Fly on Strangewings was reissued on CD in 2007, with both sides of an unreleased 1971 single (on which John Wetton plays bass) added as bonus tracks.*

This little known UK Folk Rock classic released in the early '70s. Issued in England under the band name "Jade", it's a fantastic album featuring the Sandy Denny like vocals of Marian Segal. Orchestrated, melodic songs, powerful folk rock with electric guitar harpsichord, and soaring vocal harmonies, this has to be up in the top ten UK folk rock albums of the period.
‘There is enough that is strange and beautiful on this first album to indicate that Jade have talent… The lyrics avoid many of the usual cliches and, I should imagine, spring from deeply-felt personal experiences, but musically some of the songs are not as strong as they might be’
~ Melody Maker, 1/8/70
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Jade was one of the most popular UK folk/rock bands of the early 1970's. Folk duo Marianne Segal and Dave Waite toured the late' 60's folk clubs of the UK with the likes of Sandy Denny, The Strawberry Hill Boys (later the Strawbs) Bert Jansch, John Renbourn, The Dransfields, John Martyn, Ralph McTell and other such luminaries of the UK folk circuit. They signed to Dick James Music and under the guidance of producer Jon Miller became Jade, with the addition of keyboardist/bassist and arranger Rod Edwards. In 1970 they recorded their sole album and singles with a the help of a glittering array of talent including Pete Sears (Les Fleur De Lys, Sam Gopal's Dream, Jefferson Starship) John Wetton (King Crimson, Family) Terry Cox (Pentangle) Jimmy Litherland (Colosseum) Michael Rosen (Eclection, Fotheringay) Clem Cattini (Rumplestiltskin The Ivy League) Pete York (Spencer Davis Group, Hardin and York) and Mick Waller (Rod Stewart). "Fly On Strangewings" was released in 1970 under in both the UK and the USA - where it was issued under the name Mariannne Segal and Silver Jade. It received rave reviews and comparisons to Sandy Denny and Fairport Convention. A short tour of the USA and UK plus appearances on Disco 2 (A forerunner of The Old Grey Whistle Test) were part of Jade's short but productive life, before internal pressures split the band in the summer of 1971. Now over 30 years later Jade's sole album is regarded as one of the best albums of the '70's UK folk rock movement. Unknown by many collectors it ranks along with The Trees' "On The Shore" and Mellow Candle's "Swaddling Songs" as one of the great underground albums of the era. Poorly promoted and tragically underexposed original UK copies of the album now sell for hundreds of pounds. Tight electric guitar work harpsichord and violin are blended with breathtaking string arrangements and soaring male/female vocal harmonies. A beautiful production encapsulates the bands vision of a rustic folk/rock idyll wherein the American West Coast hippy dream is enshrined in a pop vision of Constable's Olde England.Highly sought after by collectors Lightning Tree Records are proud to announce the official reissue of Jade's "Fly On Strangewings".
"Fly On Strange Wings" was Melody Makers album of the month when released in 1970. 30 years later it appeared in the UK's Mojo Magazine as one of the top ten UK folk rock albums of the '70's along with Fairport Convention's "Leige and Leaf". Now at last it is widely available to be afforded the classic status it deserves.
~ Official Press Release.
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While Jade's only album is decent early-'70s British folk-rock, its similarity to the material that Sandy Denny sang lead on with Fairport Convention is so evident that it's rather unnerving. Marian Segal sounded more like Denny than any other British folk-rock singer of the time did, and the songs mixed rock music, more traditional British Isles folk melodic and lyrical elements, and stirring contemporary singer-songwriter rock in much the same way that Fairport did in their WHAT WE DID ON OUR HOLIDAYS and UNHALFBRICKING era. The difference is that Jade had a little more of a pop influence than Fairport, occasionally using orchestration, and less of a traditional folk one at that. Of course, whereas Fairport split up the lead vocals among several members, Marian Segal takes almost all of them here, though the good amount of vocal harmonies, again, can't fail but to recall early Fairport.
~ Internet Sources.

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Edited by - lemonade kid on 14/03/2012 22:08:01

Ashrob
Second Love

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Posted - 12/03/2012 :  23:26:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John Whetton, Michael Rosen and Jimmy Litherland were to become part of the short lived rock band Mogul Thrash.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

USA
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Posted - 13/03/2012 :  00:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The English folk family tree is awesome!

AMongst Anemones....rack one...rocks like Fairport's best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfI0Z-Zt1W4

The whole JADE album is there for your listening pleasure. Are JAde better known in the UK than here? Well..hardly known at all here.

So damn good!



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We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers & discoverers-
-thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses.
Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams.

-Peter S. Beagle 1973

Edited by - lemonade kid on 13/03/2012 00:31:17
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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 13/03/2012 :  01:07:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A nice photo gallery...








Marianne & Dave from the Paper Flowers folk lp sessions 1966






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Edited by - lemonade kid on 13/03/2012 01:11:41
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Ashrob
Second Love

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Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:38:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was fully into Electric Folk at that time but I don't remember them.

I wonder what venues they played and whether they toured the clubs or the bigger venues presumably as the support.
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lemonade kid
Old Love

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Posted - 14/03/2012 :  22:02:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashrob

I was fully into Electric Folk at that time but I don't remember them.

I wonder what venues they played and whether they toured the clubs or the bigger venues presumably as the support.



JADE were an English folk rock band founded in 1970 by Dave Waite & Marianne Segal who had been performing as a folk duo since the mid 1960s. In the United States the group was known as Marianne Segal and Silver Jade. Jade consisted of Segal (songwriter, vocals, guitar, percussion), Waite (guitar, banjo, bass and vocals) and Rod Edwards (keyboards, bass and vocals).

Their album Fly On Strangewings (DJLPS 407) was recorded in March 1970, at Trident Studios, Soho, London. The album was produced by John Miller and engineered by Robin Cable for DJM Records. The following musicians contributed to the album: John Wetton – bass; James Litherland – guitar; Pete Sears – bass; Michael Rosen – guitar; Clem Cattini – drums; Terry Cox – drums; Pete York – drums; Mick Waller – drums; Harry Reynolds – bass; Phil Dennys - string arrangements. The album featured harpsichord, violin as well as guitar instrumentation, combined with male and female vocal harmonies.

Jade disbanded in the autumn of 1971. They reformed for a single performance in November 2004 to mark the CD reissue of their album.





Marianne & Silver Jade....bio

In a transatlantic twist that has confused discographers keeping track of rare folk-rock records, Marian Segal With Silver Jade was in fact the same band that had formed in Britain under the name Jade, and released their sole album under the name Jade in the U.K. in 1970. It turned out there was another band named Jade in the U.S., so the album, Fly on Strangewings, was billed to Marian Segal With Silver Jade when it was released on Bell in America in 1971, Segal being the group's lead singer. Both the U.S. and U.K. albums contain the same music, though different sleeves were used. As for the music, whether it came out under the name Jade or Marian Segal With Silver Jade, Fly on Strangewings might have sounded closer to 1968-1969-era Fairport Convention than any other record not by Fairport themselves. Jade's lead singer, Marian Segal (who also played acoustic guitar), had a very similar voice and style to that of Fairport's woman singer of the late '60s, Sandy Denny. Too, Jade blended parts of modern folk-rock and traditional British folk in their songs, vocal harmonies, and arrangements. Jade were not as big on traditional British folk as Fairport were by late 1969, however, recalling the Fairport albums What We Did on Our Holidays and Unhalfbricking far more than the later 1969 Fairport record that took a more traditional direction in repertoire, Liege & Lief. Jade were also a wee bit more pop in their songwriting and arrangements (which occasionally used orchestration) than Fairport, their inevitable point of comparison. While Fly on Strangewings isn't as strong or original as Fairport Convention's early albums, it can be heartily recommended to anyone who loves the sound of early Fairport with Sandy Denny on vocals, and wants something in a very similar style. Jade's Marian Segal had been in a school band with future Fleetwood Mac guitarist Danny Kirwan, and began singing in London folk clubs around 1966. In 1967 she formed a duo with singer, fellow acoustic guitarist, and banjo player Dave Waite; he'd formerly been in the folk group the Countrymen, who had a minor British hit single in 1962 with "I Know Where I'm Going." By the end of the 1960s they'd moved away from traditional folk to contemporary material and original songs, and were managed by Jon Miller, who was in partnership with famous British music publisher Dick James. They got a deal with James' DJM label and Miller, who'd produce Jade's album, introduced them to singer and keyboardist Rod Edwards, who became the third member of the band. Moving to a more rock-oriented sound, the album benefited from session work by several noted musicians of the time, including Michael Rosen (who'd been in the underrated British folk-rock group Eclection), Pete York (of the Spencer Davis Group and Hardin & York), Terry Cox (of the Pentangle), Pete Sears (later of Jefferson Starship), top U.K. session drummer Clem Cattini, and Mick Waller (who played with Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart during that period). The group toured the States in the summer of 1971, but split up that autumn, by which time Segal was working on an unfinished solo album. Segal and Waite continued playing as the Marian Segal Band with other musicians for a few years, but didn't get a recording deal before they split up in the mid-'70s. Fly on Strangewings was reissued on CD in 2003, with both sides of an unreleased 1971 single (on which John Wetton plays bass) added as bonus tracks. ~ Richie Unterberger, Rovi

It would be nice to hear from a UK member who saw them back in the day...or followed them.



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We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers & discoverers-
-thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses.
Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams.

-Peter S. Beagle 1973

Edited by - lemonade kid on 14/03/2012 22:06:18
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