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underture
Fifth Love
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 Posted - 23/02/2012 : 21:13:41
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I was looking at one of the "worst of" lists and it dawned on me that based on music alone by 1974 the innovations or spirit or whatever of the 60's had definitively died by this year. Just some of the offal that came out in 1974:
Seasons In The Sun
The Streak
Billy Don't Be A Hero
The Night Chicago Died
Kung Fu Fighting
Having My Baby
And close to '74 one of the worst ever Run Joey Run.
Sad that only a few short years after the end of the Beatles this is where music went to. I definitely won't be ordering my K-Tell records collection anytime soon.
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 21:30:00
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Mind you 1974 also saw some outstanding albums from singer songwriters:
Neil Young's On The Beach, Gene Clark's No Other, Dylan's Blood On The Tracks, Jimmy Webb's Lands End and Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark.
But I agree on another level - by the mid 70s the Renaissance was largely over as we encountered much blander fare - I would include Jefferson Starship and the Rumours era Fleetwood Mac...perfectly pleasant listening....but a long way from the truly revolutionary music that had thrilled us so a few years before. As the title of one of David Mamet's movies puts it...Things Change. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 22:30:24
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I have to agree with both John & Underture...
The 70's (80's and beyond) will never come close to the 60's as the greatest decade of rock of all time...how can they?
But I must admit that after the 60's, each subsequent decade of music that fills me with scorn & derision, also contains some of my favorites of all time.
Gene Clark of course..the best
Joni Mitchell always
Randy Newman
Nilsson
Linda Ronstadt
Gram Parsons
Gordon Lightfoot
Zappa
Van Morrison
Lou Reed
John Cale
Brian Eno
Big Star
Todd Rundgren
Doobies
Steely Dan
Steeleye Span
Strawbs
Paul Simon
Boz Scaggs
Poco
Neil (right on, John)
Joan Baez
Richard & Linda Thompson
Jack Bruce
Captain Beefheart
Tom WAITS!!
Sparks
Ry Cooder
Man
The Pretty Things
Rolling Stones
Johnny Cash kept getting better!
James Taylor
Carol King
Brian Ferry
Cold Blood
EL&P
Led Zeppelin...non stop!
Little Feat
Scott Walker
ELO
Hall & Oates
Tom Rush
Jackson Browne
Bonnie Rait
John Lennon
Santana
Queen
Marshall Tucker
George Harrison
TRAFFIC
Dan Fogelberg
David Blue
John Prine
Bunky & Jake/Jake & The Family Jewels
CSN&Y
Pentangle
Badfinger
Dennis Wilson-Pacific Ocean Blue
Iain Matthews
James McMurtry
Jesse Colin Young
Jerry Jeff Walker
Jethro Tull
Kate Bush
Maggie Bell
Nick Drake
Pink Floyd
Michael Nesmith
STEVIE WONDER
This is crazy...last time I'll diss the decades after the 60's!!
I do notice that after the 60's I mostly listed the singer/songwriters over bands....the 60's saw the rise of the bands and super groups--the 70's and beyond saw the decline of the rock groups and the rise of the individual musicians for me..
But even so, it will always be the 60's that top my list--the Golden Age Of Rock.
So anyway, underture...I looked at a list of the albums released in 1974, and i would agree..there were more bad records released than good...at least in my library!!
OOO...and Leonard Cohen!
But I also noticed that most of the artists I loved AFTER the 60's, earned their chops BACK in the 60's.
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We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers & discoverers-
-thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses.
Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams.
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Joe Morris
Old Love
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 22:58:18
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last Love album (Reel to Real) on a major label in 1974
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markk
Old Love
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Posted - 24/02/2012 : 00:14:49
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Check your dates, to me it seems like close to 50% on your list are 60's music, and then extending into the 70's. 1972 seems to mark the year of decline for the rock culture and by 75-76, Donna Summer
was the rage. It still makes me cringe. |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 24/02/2012 : 00:40:09
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Originally posted by markk
Check your dates, to me it seems like close to 50% on your list are 60's music, and then extending into the 70's. 1972 seems to mark the year of decline for the rock culture and by 75-76, Donna Summer
was the rage. It still makes me cringe.
That's what I'm talking ABOUT, markk!! Most of the music I loved and still love may have been recorded in the 70's or 80's or 90's onward, but it turns out most i love earned their chops in the 60's...so I am busted!
But I WAS referring to music RECORDED in the 70's onward as being valid still, even if they were 60's musicians at heart in reality.
Some artists fizzled after the 60's after the dream was dead, but many others blossomed!
But then, maybe I AM just a 60's snob!! I like to think I grew with the times too and didn't remain mired in the Sixties...did I?!!
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We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers & discoverers-
-thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses.
Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams.
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John9
Old Love
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Posted - 24/02/2012 : 01:22:30
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I'm with LK on this. People like Neil Young and Joni Mitchell certainly did begin during the 60s. But the point is that they were still producing challenging and innovative music in 1974, when most of their contemporaries were not.
1974 was good in another way......the Progressive genre was delivering some of its most notable successes then. The Genesis masterpiece The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway dates from that year...although I have never fully understood why Peter Gabriel found it necessary to leave the band just when they were at their peak. |
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underture
Fifth Love
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Posted - 24/02/2012 : 15:18:33
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All good points and don't make any mistake: there was quality in '74 (or any year). I just think that that year is the real demarcation point were slop outweighed the good.
What I mean is that for example arbitrarily pick a year from the 60's (I'll pick '68). If you were to put all that was produced and recorded that year and put all titles randomly on a dart board, closed your eyes and threw a dart there is about a 95% chance you would land on something great or really good. Even the not so great from that year (arbitrarily I pick Green Tambourine/Lemon Pipers) had some sort of endearing quality. By '74 you blindfold yourself and throw a dart then you probably aren't going to get something very good, possibly terrible.
And yes I am a 60's snob so take my opinion with a huge grain of salt .
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rocker
Old Love
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 28/02/2012 : 20:22:26
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Originally posted by rocker
Look the real reason music started to die back in those early 70's is because of the clothes. Did you see what people were running around with? This is what music was up against...
http://dallasvintageshop.com/wp-content/uploads/sm-groovy-disco-dude.jpg
HA!! Yep...the CLOTHES!! So Bad.
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We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers & discoverers-
-thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses.
Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams.
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