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lemonade kid
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Posted - 30/04/2011 :  17:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Out of respect....thought we should start a separate subject....

Talking Heads
Brian Eno
John Cale
Patti Smith

Where does Roxy Music fit in? Not my genre mates!



But I know enough to recognize the ORIGINALS!!!!
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

The Velvets foretold & created the roots of all that was to come.



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Edited by - lemonade kid on 30/04/2011 17:55:26

ALLANAGAIN
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Posted - 01/05/2011 :  13:21:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Viva the Velvets.....first. last and ALLWAYS!
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rocker
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Posted - 02/05/2011 :  14:42:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Re: Roxy Music..

With Eno helping out on Avalon, I thought it sure made that record special!
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captain america and billy
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  15:59:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've always admired Punk's gutteral brand of creativity,but I could never quite make a connection here.I think maybe the closest I've come have been the Ramones.For me there's just enough of a hint of rock and roll blend to hold my interest.As for the New Wave,I do enjoy Talking Heads' "Psycho-Killer" and "Take Me To The River".And of course, who can resist the inescapably hooking "Rock Lobster".I also kind of dug their mid-eighties more approach "Love Shack" and "Roam".But by then,New Wave had lost much of its original zeal."Joshua Tree" is probably where U2 got off and opted for a hitch on the more mainstream train.Not necessarily a criticism,its just as the saying goes.It had all "been done".The great ones move on.The lesser fade into the "whatever happened to" classification"(Depeche Mode,Flock of Seagulls,etc...)
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lemonade kid
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  17:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The CARS really had that sound and I enjoy them

And then there is Bryan Ferry & Brian Eno--ROXY MUISC!
Not what I would call PUNK, bur a new Wave nonetheless....they definitely formed long before New Age was a gleam in The Clash's eyes.

Roxy would be called ART ROCK if we have to place them....but I would put THE CARS there too....and THE POLICE.



I guess I'm not really a punk guy....am I?!

Virginia Plain...well it definitely has that PUNK Velvets sound...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEalg62F8Zg&feature=related


AVALON....my favorite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_5a0miWk&feature=related

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lemonade kid
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  18:02:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lemonade kid

The CARS really had that sound and I enjoy them

And then there is Bryan Ferry & Brian Eno--ROXY MUISC!
Not what I would call PUNK, but a new Wave nonetheless--it all goes back to The Velvets--the first ART Rock/PUNK/Grunge, well you know....ROXY definitely formed long before New Age was a gleam in The Clash's eyes. Another groundbreaker...





Virginia Plain...well it definitely has that PUNK Velvets sound...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEalg62F8Zg&feature=related


AVALON....my favorite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_5a0miWk&feature=related

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captain america and billy
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  16:01:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did I hear the Roxy on the soundtracks of "Sixteen Candles" or other eighties flicks.The vocal styling and richly layered romanticism sounds awfully familiar.I have seen "Avalon" fairly high on many greatest albums lists.Certainly a branch of New Wave,just with a sensibility towards subtle enrichment.Wonderfully cascading use of synth.
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rocker
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  18:51:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...and check out that record sleeve cover that Avalon's on...nothing like a nice picture to add to theb music!...
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lemonade kid
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  20:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by rocker

...and check out that record sleeve cover that Avalon's on...nothing like a nice picture to add to theb music!...

That is Ferry's wife dressed to look like something out of King Arthur! So there IS a female on every Roxy cover!

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rocker
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  21:54:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
righto!......

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rocker
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  21:57:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and arguably these guys may have had a hand in giving punk a push!..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLq8q7QKnPE
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bob f.
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  23:25:40  Show Profile  Visit bob f.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
In Los Angeles, we had a thriving "punk" scene, some bands got national attention, like, X, Fear, The Minutemen, The Weirdos, ...and The Meat Puppets, and a whole lotta local bands exploded real grass-roots folk, psych, rock, art-punk, and "New Wave Theater" , a cable TV show in the early '80s , broadcast local bands, (including, Dead Hippie, and my band, The Generals.)
Early "punk-rock" '77-80, is a completely different thing from today's punkawannabe crap akin to the peace-symbol as fashion, and spikey hair co-opted by Spring-Break Jock-rock shallow wall-paper.
Punk was an extention...and a protest response, of the spirit of the 60's good stuff, which had become infiltrated by corporate, plastic, synthetic, TRASH, .....yes, early punk was good and real fun stuff..................and it all brings me back to the best of the best of times: 1960s rock and roll/folk/pop/psych/country/...and all of the unheard garage rock throughout the world during this music/social revolution, .....guts, joy, enlightenment, spiritual rebirth, stoned-out psychedelic revelation, ....we thrive and grow and change and create!

...what the world needs now...
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lemonade kid
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Posted - 05/05/2011 :  18:47:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Punkers thought Queen too self-indulgent.....Queen's answer....News Of The World and "Sheer Heart Attack"....

"Sheer Heart Attack" was half-finished at the time of the 1974 album of the same name. Roger Taylor sang lead on the demo but for the definitive version the band decided Mercury should sing lead vocals, with Roger singing the chorus. Guitars[citation needed] and bass were played by Taylor, apart from some guitar "screams" by May during the instrumental section.

During this time, the punk rock movement went into full effect, and this song was viewed as something of a jab at the musicians who felt bands like Queen were too self-indulgent. Of note is the lyric "I feel so inarticulate", and the fact that Taylor stated in interviews that he thought many of the 1970s punk bands had very little talent.
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rocker
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Posted - 06/05/2011 :  14:16:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well I think there's a time and place for everything in rock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ7MH7oecK0

rock needed and still needs this!!.....the punkers do keep you awake...
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captain america and billy
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Posted - 06/05/2011 :  18:52:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone agree with the opinion of some that Grunge may have been some form of belated American Punk?God bless the artisans of the motherland.Always ten years ahead of the curve in fashion and art,etc.
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