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John9
Old Love
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 Posted - 28/11/2010 : 17:36:52
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I've just come across this. You need one hour twenty minutes to view the whole thing.....but it's well worth it....absolutely fascinating:
http://www.chrishillman.com/video.html
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 29/11/2010 : 17:49:41
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Thanks, J. Chris is always worth a listen; he is a smart, good man and one of the best still making music...always with heart and integrity.
I love the latter day BYRDS (those albums with Chris but without Gene).....I think the best one without any Byrd but Roger is easily...EASY RIDER. But out of love and respect for Gene Clark, I always think of everything after Five Miles High as the Geneless Byrds. Never quite the same. But maybe it was a time and place sort of thing....'64/'65/'66 was magical with Byrds, Beatles, Stones, and all those Mothers...
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/11/2010 : 18:26:52
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Yes LK ...I love The Ballad Of Easyrider as well....but I also have a great affection for Untitled.....it was the first Byrds album I ever bought. At the time (1971) I knew nothing of the personnel changes and merely thought that it would be an inexpensive way of buying some of their hits. It was only when I got the record home that I realised that these hits were in fact live....and rather loose. And so I borrowed some of my following week's student allowance and went out to buy The Byrds Greatest Hits....that was much more the thing of course.
I think there's a paradox with The Byrds. Gene Clark was of course their best and most prolific songwriter.....but if hadn't left then perhaps Crosby and Hillman would never have stepped forward to craft their own wonderful music. This is why the accolade 'best album' can be applied equally well to any of their first five....like The Beatles, they were evolving magically. And that was something that was incapable of ever being recaptured on their reunion album for Asylum. As Jim Dickson said in his essay for the landmark archive release, Never Before: "When they played with one mind and feeling....they were unbeatable."  |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 29/11/2010 : 18:36:12
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Right, J...without all the changes, we would not have CSN$Y, Neil solo. Flying Burritos, Poco, Loggins & Messina, Manassas (with Chris & Steve and all), Crosby and Nash....the list is amazing and part of history.....if they had all stayed together...how boring! Stills as a Monkey would have been a disaster for us all!!!
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John9
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/11/2010 : 18:56:21
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Originally posted by lemonade kid
Right, J...without all the changes, we would not have CSN$Y, Neil solo. Flying Burritos, Poco, Loggins & Messina, Manassas (with Chris & Steve and all), Crosby and Nash....the list is amazing and part of history.....if they had all stayed together...how boring! Stills as a Monkey would have been a disaster for us all!!!
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Yes absolutely....when Never Before first appeared in the late 80s, it was like a dream come true for us UK fans. For several years previously, writers like Johnny Rogan were writing tantalising reports on Byrds' tracks that had never seen the light of day. The news that there had actually been a Byrds' version of Triad drove me to the margins of sanity! And then tapes started to appear and I remember making special journeys to London to visit the record fairs...and then the market stalls. After several months I got my hands on a vinyl booleg entitled The Byrds' Back Pages...but I was deeply disappointed by its sound quality. And then just like that, the vinyl Never Before appeared in a record store in the centre of Manchester....I was deleriously happy. And a year or so later, the expanded CD. I strongly believe that it was the success of this particular venture that prompted the 90s/2000s craze for bonus tracks...and the relentless search for unreleased material by so many different acts. Somehow the 60s and early 70s were being relived as though for the first time.....and it was thrilling. |
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 15:10:58
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Thanks for that john. Boy the music historians will be viewing this for a while. Lots of history here with Mr. Hillman. i'll needa block of time to really get through all of it.
Regarding trhe Byrds and their effect: You know I'd think that the UK really raised up their ears when they first heard "The Bells of Rhymney" (based on a Welsh poem) from the Byrds. (That was the Byrds refelcting back UK history from America!) That's the 60's for you. Doing new stuff or taking old stuff and making it new for a new generation. I don't know if we'll ever see a time like that again.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 17:45:40
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Originally posted by rocker
Thanks for that john. Boy the music historians will be viewing this for a while. Lots of history here with Mr. Hillman. i'll needa block of time to really get through all of it.
Regarding trhe Byrds and their effect: You know I'd think that the UK really raised up their ears when they first heard "The Bells of Rhymney" (based on a Welsh poem) from the Byrds. (That was the Byrds refelcting back UK history from America!) That's the 60's for you. Doing new stuff or taking old stuff and making it new for a new generation.
I don't know if we'll ever see a time like that again.
NEVER! The times they have a-changed....sad really. But we'll aleays have.... music.
Man, I am full of cliches today...or just full of it!
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rocker
Old Love
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 18:32:52
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lk...But we'll aleays have.... music.
Yessireee...and hey and we have to thank the guy or gal who invented it........;-)....it's the sublime art!!!
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lemonade kid
Old Love
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 18:36:06
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Originally posted by rocker
lk...But we'll aleays have.... music.
Yessireee...and hey and we have to thank the guy or gal who invented it........;-)....it's the sublime art!!!
Who put the bop in the bop-shoo-op?
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