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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/12/2009 : 15:48:28
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Originally posted by rocker
and just in passing as I read about all these fine guitarists I'd think it would be great if you all could mention the song or songs where you liked the guitarist playing...we've all got our collections and I'd love to hear those great riffs which characterizes their playing or unique style..who knows? it could open a look on guitarists one hasn't heard much.. ...
To be honest with the guitarists I've named I pretty much like all their work, it could take me a hell of a lot of thinking to name individual songs.... |
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Old_Man
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 21:16:43
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| One song in particular for me was Alvin Lee's playing on Ten Years After's Love Like A Man from the Cricklewood Green album. That was the first album I ever bought. |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 21:33:37
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| very good old man...will check out...I'm not sure if Danny Kirwan (old Fleetwood) is on anybody's list but I think he did a fine instrumental which was on "Bare Trees"..."Sunny Side of Heaven"..nice guitar work...that riff is always running around my head....like you one of my first intros to "good" music... |
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harvey
Fourth Love
United Kingdom
155 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 00:30:37
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Hey guys and gals....Danny Kirwan played a lot of stuff on records that everybody thought was Peter Green. Man of the World for example I have seen several live videos and Green does not play on that a lot. Alvin Lee's career was rather judged on the 'Goin Home' track which went on for hours with very quick licks played over and over. I think a lot of other guitarists saw it as a quick easy way to notoriety, turn it up, play lots of notes very fast, superstar. I worked for the rest of Ten Years After when they were backing Stan Webb of Chicken Shack later on in their careers and the seemed to be thoroughly fed up with grinding that track out over and over so they and Alvin parted company. Someone mentioned Paul Kossoff, ( here we go again 'Name drops keep falling on me head') when I worked for Andy Fraser he said it was a bit difficult to get Paul to play much because of the problems that finally killed him. OK another few to consider, Jan Ackermann of Focus, he got a lot of his ideas from transcribing old lute music into guitar riffs. Neil Schon (probably spelt that wrong) of Journey just for my favourite feeling sad track 'Who's Crying Now' Nothing better to make me feel really down than driving to a local lookout in my 340bhp 5 litre sports car with that blasting out. 'shall I turn the next corner or keep on into the wall at 150 mph.' oops no ...going off the subject here. Other talk on a chat here from lemonade kid talking about a comparison between the Kinks and the Yardbirds.One of the reasons the kinks worked so well was the Davies brothers Ray and Dave had real serious problems with each other and had blazing rows backstage before gigs and I have heard that they quite often had to be held apart by the crew. I think it may have been a bit like the Burdon and Alan Price thing, one has an idea and the other claims the credit. I knew an engineer at Konk studios which was owned by the Kinks and he told me of all sorts of goings on there between Ray and Dave. On Top of the Pops once (live) the DJ introduced Dave as Ray Davies and he went into a real purple fit and almost walked off. The Yardies as you know I have told several tales about them that Jim Mcarty used to tell me. Keith Relf was always looking to get mystic eastern effects on the records with sitars etc and they wanted a sitar sound on the beginning of 'Heart full of Soul'. They were experimenting in the studio and not really getting anywhere when Jeff Beck picked up the guitar and plugged it into a fuzz box and said 'is this the sort of thing' hence the classic beginning to that track. And of course the friction in the Yardbirds caused by Beck and Page trying to play each other off the stage and sound better than Clapton had. Poor old Jim Mcarty didnt get the drum chair with Zep though I have seen TV/film clips of very early Zep where he is drumming and they are playing early versions of Zep Classics. But he was no BONZO. So there we are then ......10 favourite drummers anybody.
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ALLANAGAIN
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/12/2009 : 14:29:34
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Well done Caryne...i felt quite guilty when i realised i had left MICK RONSON out!Who could forget that killer solo on "Moonage Daydream" from Ziggy,and loads more. EARL SLICK also another great guitarist from Bowie,s Band circa Station to station. Geez they just keep on coming...
Robin Trower
Walter Trout
stephen stills
Johny Marr
John squire and please help[ me out here who played lead on Lou Reed,s ROCK N ROLL ANIMAL?
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boombox
Old Love
United Kingdom
548 Posts |
Posted - 14/12/2009 : 15:08:48
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Originally posted by ALLANAGAIN
and please help[ me out here who played lead on Lou Reed,s ROCK N ROLL ANIMAL?
Not sure, but quite possibly Steve Hunter, who has worked a lot with Reed. Excellent guitarist, who challenged Randy for best performer on the Night of the Guitars album and tour. |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 14/12/2009 : 15:16:42
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| allan..Steve Hunter... |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 14/12/2009 : 15:27:50
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and harvey..maybe you'd know who would be the first "rock" guitarist to go over into more than a 20 sec solo riff on a record????.... ...Anyway, when it comes to judging great guitarists I think technical wizardry on a recording is fine but sometimes I think it's overused in judging their competence. You can be technical but come come nowhere near in presenting the music beneath. When it coms to those guys I just have to say I don't see how a great band can have a lousy rhythm guitarist! Under-appreciated people I say... |
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 14/12/2009 : 16:34:04
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Originally posted by rocker
and harvey..maybe you'd know who would be the first "rock" guitarist to go over into more than a 20 sec solo riff on a record????.......Anyway, when it comes to judging great guitarists I think technical wizardry on a recording is fine but sometimes I think it's overused in judging their competence. You can be technical but come come nowhere near in presenting the music beneath. When it coms to those guys I just have to say I don't see how a great band can have a lousy rhythm guitarist! Under-appreciated people I say...
Right rocker...rhythm guitar carries a load and better be able to do it....behind every great band is the rhythm guitar, bass and drums...ya, you need the stand out singer or guitar, but not both....Byrds had the rhythm and vocal but no real lead guitar in the sense of a searing "Stratocaster" star.
But a strong core is essential.
Buffalo Springfield had two amazing leads...the battle on stage for prominence spilled over into the dressing room to the point of putting down the guitars and using chairs and fists! Emotions ran high! I would have loved to have seen the Buff at their heights on stage! The best two lead tandem in rock...with some Richie on 12 thrown in? How can that be topped? Not bad.
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boombox
Old Love
United Kingdom
548 Posts |
Posted - 14/12/2009 : 17:03:41
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Got to agree with you, rocker, re critics and polls over-relying on technique to judge who the 'best' players are. True, some of my choices - eg Tim Palmieri and Dweezil Zappa are technically awesome, but I love them for what they choose to do with it. I'm not a great fan of Malmsteen and only an Ok fan of Satriani, but unlike them, Dweezil can really go places (his guitar duels with Vai on the '07 ZPZ tour can't help but leave you with a real smile on your face. As for Tim, he can wig out on a recent tune like Tuneage, but still play some wonderfully melodic stuff on something like The Grand Scheme of Things. (Shameless plug for The Breakfast over!!)
And as for rhythm players, highly undervalued, 'tis true. (Yes, here speaks another rhythm guitarist!!) Where would The Beatles have been without John Lennon? Or how about Jefferson Airplane with Jorma but no Paul or the Dead with Jerry, but without Bob playing behind? That said, do you always need that second guitarist? Pete Townshend didn't. And neither did Steve Marriott with the Small Faces, nor at the end of his career, when he played some of his most soulful guitar in The Packet of Three, who remain possibly my favourite trio ever (Jerry Shirley and Jim Leverton being the engine room in that band).
(oh and thanks for clarifying the Lou Reed question.) |
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bob f.
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 15/12/2009 : 03:23:18
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boombox...YES, Steve Hunter's INTRO on "Sweet Jane" is guitar GOD
HEAVEN !
...what the world needs now... |
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caryne
Old Love
United Kingdom
1520 Posts |
Posted - 15/12/2009 : 09:30:29
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| My favourite into ever is by John Perry of The Only Ones on 'Another Girl, Another Planet', sheer bliss |
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ALLANAGAIN
Old Love
United Kingdom
687 Posts |
Posted - 17/12/2009 : 01:55:54
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Thanks evryone...think i,m gonna treat myself to ROCK N ROLL ANIMAL on c.d. for xmas, as you rightly say Bob F Hunters intro on sweet jane is heaven indeed, a great version of ROCK N ROLL as well.
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mikeb
Old Love
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 16:38:23
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Some of my favourites not yet mentioned:
Roy Buchanan, very expressive blues guitarist
Bo Diddley
Dick Dale
Steve Cropper
Junior Kimbrough, hypnotic quality to his blues playing
Tom Verlaine
Mentions been made of Steve Hunter but as a longtime Lou Reed fan I'd say he's a very innovative guitar player, as well as Hunter another very good guitarist he worked with was Robert Quine.
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lemonade kid
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 20/12/2009 : 06:33:11
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Sonny Landreth...brilliant... here with great rhythm guitar songster favorite John Hiatt!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep3HbeNAW4g&feature=related
And some great LEADS on pedal steel....Rusty Young, Ben Keith, Jerry Garcia, Red Rhodes, Sneaky Pete, Julian Tharpe, Jaydee Maness....
(go to the peda; steel hall of fame..
http://www.scottysmusic.com/hofplq.htm
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Edited by - lemonade kid on 20/12/2009 06:35:20 |
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