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barbinberkeley
Fourth Love
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 Posted - 29/04/2008 : 04:08:46
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| I'm glad this thread is going on. I understand that it might seem tacky to speculate about particular people doing what many consider antisocial behavior, ie. drugs. But, I think it's valid to discuss the drugs/music connection, since so very many of our greatest musicians have been known users. Just about everybody in music that I idolize has been known for it. The environment they work in usually has alcohol available. Can you imagine how many fans would be begging their idols to let them buy them a drink? Or turn them on to something else? Not to mention music promoters, who provide drugs to insure a lively show. I read John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin told of arriving backstage for a big concert in San Francisco to find bowls of cocaine provided by Bill Graham. He said he really didn't want any right then, but "it seemed silly to refuse." Phil May of The Pretty Things said that they pretty much made SF Sorrow on cocaine. For one thing, it kept them alert night and day in the recording studio until the album was finished. I read in an interview with a musician who knew and liked Arthur very much that Arthur had no tolerance for alcohol. It reminds me of a t-shirt I've seen "Instant Asshole - Just Add Alcohol." Not meaning he was a bad person, just a bad drunk. About heroin, I'm sure some use it for fun, but I'd bet some just to escape pain, either physical or emotional. I can see someone with extreme emotions trying to put them to sleep with heroin. |
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rocker
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 30/04/2008 : 14:35:44
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| You know it's kind of a given that 'artists' have the image of being tortured souls moreso than the person who is not an 'artist'. They're usually sen as being in some sort of conflict with themsleves,others, an institution or a way of life. I ask do problems cause the drug-taking or does the drug-taking cause and develop the problems? Why does a guy like Keef "survive" the life he lives when others are long gone? Is he just lucky or does he like other people really have a gene that says hey I'm indestructible. You can't kill me. |
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myoungish
Fifth Love
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 08:28:10
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Keith is an absolute reptilian freak of nature. To this day he allegedly drinks copious amounts of vodka with Sunkist, chain-smokes endlessly, and isn't adverse to the hard stuff now and again. One bio says he shot up a bunch of bad leftover heroin that had killed one of his drug buddies.
As for Arthur, the man was so profoundly complex that it's hard to even begin to speculate on the magnitude or the ebb and flow of his drug use. The last time I saw him, in SF in '04, he was obviously high (or at the very least, drunk.) He couldn't finish the show, and Rusty heroically filled in on vocals. After the show Arthur stepped off the stage and sort of sauntered-staggered-floated thru the audience, and I'll never forget his big ethereal eyes that night, and his massive pupils.
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rocker
Old Love
USA
3606 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2008 : 14:04:30
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| michael and all..re: Keith...did you see the recent ad Keith is in where he's holding his guitar? I think I've seen them in print and in mags. I'm not sure now what the ad was for but what stood out is the way he looks. I swear he looks as if he's come out of "The Mummy", that eerie 30's film with Boris Karloff to spook us all. |
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myoungish
Fifth Love
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2008 : 06:33:13
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Heh heh. I believe I have seen that Mummy pic, rocker. You called it perfectly. And remember he's airbrushed and wearing lots of makeup! What could he possibly look like on a sunday morning, coming down? Those crevices previously unknown to man, combined with the gothic eyeliner..whew.
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rocker
Old Love
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2008 : 14:58:36
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thank you michael..I tell ya I got the creeps looking at it!..er...wanna bet the ghost of Bela Lugosi haunted Arthur and the band???????..... |
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Arthur's drug use
