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Punk Floyd
First Love

18 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  09:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello. I'm doing some research on the band and band members, and in particular Bobby Beausolieu. Hopefully some of you can help me.

In what month/year did Bobby Beausolieu join the band?

Bobby's nickname was Cupid. It is said that the because of Bobby's nickname the band name "Love" was selected when they changed from "The Grass Roots." Is this true?

After band member changes Charles Manson became the lead singer after meeting Bobby.

In what month/year did Charles Manson become the lead singer?

How long was he their singer?

Was there ever any recorded music with Manson singing lead?


Thank you for your assistance.


Here's an interesting link with a picture of LOVE on the marquee in Haight/Ashbury from back in the 60s.

Not sure if you all seen this before but I thought I would share.

http://www.thestraight.com/



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jayson_valentine
Third Love

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  20:13:29  Show Profile  Visit jayson_valentine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1. Love was originally called The Grass Roots. In '65, they had a run-in with San Francisco producer Lou Adler who wanted to exploit their talent. After ridiculing Adler, Love turned down his offer to be "bigger than the Beatles"; only for their band name to be stolen by a band of studio musicians.
2. After Bobby left GR, he met up with Manson to record his album "Lie" which features Manson on lead vocal and rythm guitar. I'm not sure the date this was recorded, but it is released, however rare.

Signed J.V.

Edited by - jayson_valentine on 03/01/2008 20:21:59
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Punk Floyd
First Love

18 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  20:40:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks J.V.

So Manson never sang lead for Love?

Why did Grass Roots turn down the offer to become bigger than the Beatles?

Jim Morrison and the Rolling Stones were fans of Love, so why did Bobby leave the band?

All you need is Love
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The Freedom Man
Old Love

Netherlands
553 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  21:02:05  Show Profile  Visit The Freedom Man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This link should be very usefull:

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Chapter14.htm#Love

He, just saw that I'm in the endnotes at the bottom of the page!
I am offcourse "someone named Ed".

52 David Fricke, Rolling Stone, Byran MacLean’s obituary, issue 806, Feb. 18, 1999. http://home1.inet.tele.dk/tks/love/maclean.htm. The obituary, written by David Fricke, was not found on Rolling Stone’s website, but the transcription is believed to be authentic because MacLean’s birth and death dates, and cause of death, were independently corroborated, via email, by someone named "Ed" who is associated with a fan website for Love: http://love.torkenskott.dk. Byran MacLean’s death is corroborated by Barney Hoskyns in his book, Arthur Lee: Alone Again Or. Reference pp. 131-132.

53 London Times obituary for Byran MacLean stated that Ken Forssi died of cancer "last January," which would be January 1998. Someone named "Ed," who is associated with a fan website for Love, http://love.torkenskott.dk, stated—via email to author—that Forssi died on Feb. 10, 1998. Both Ed and the London Times obituary agree that the cause of death was cancer, but Ed specified it was brain cancer, a point that was corroborated by Sean Elder in an article, dated May 22, 1999, he wrote for Salon.com. Elder’s article was titled "Love’s Labor Lost."

Edited by - The Freedom Man on 03/01/2008 21:06:30
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jayson_valentine
Third Love

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  21:52:00  Show Profile  Visit jayson_valentine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Punk Floyd - Love could care less about the money and fame. They were a band only to make good music unlike The Beatles.

Signed J.V.

Edited by - jayson_valentine on 03/01/2008 21:54:46
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Punk Floyd
First Love

18 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  23:43:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys!

Add more info if you have any. I'll have to read more threads on this site as well.

So there is no available evidence to prove Manson sang in Love, correct?

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ruxprncd
Fifth Love

305 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2008 :  23:57:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are many odd rumors about Love, but Manson singing with them isn't one of them! Not a chance - it simply didn't happen.
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kdion11
Old Love

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  00:55:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Punk Floyd

Thanks guys!

Add more info if you have any. I'll have to read more threads on this site as well.

So there is no available evidence to prove Manson sang in Love, correct?

All you need is Love




KD: Hey Punk Floyd. The SF Weekly ran a cover story on Bobby B
about 2 years ago - infor may still be available on their website,
or perhaps you can contact them - No, Manson never played or sang
with LOVE - he's only ever mentioned because of Bobby B's brief
days with the Grass Roots before they became LOVE.

Free the love !
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Lizzyb
Fifth Love

United Kingdom
470 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  01:46:39  Show Profile  Visit Lizzyb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Kevin delaney

There's a name - He certainly knew a lot around 1998, researching a book. I remember he just missed KF but was in touch with Bryan latterly.

Keep on shining
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ruxprncd
Fifth Love

305 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  02:18:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kevin's a great guy. I emailed with him, and did a few tape trades, in the late 90's. I think he's got some solid Bryan (and maybe others?) interview/transcript material for the book he was working on - would be cool to see it published / available someday.
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Punk Floyd
First Love

18 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  04:03:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the tips and info, everyone.

What was the oddest rumor you heard about Love?

All you need is Love
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Punk Floyd
First Love

18 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  04:08:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Took me 30 seconds to find the article. The Internet rocks!

http://www.sfweekly.com/2004-11-17/news/lucifer-arisen/

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poetry
Second Love

USA
30 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  11:09:23  Show Profile  Visit poetry's Homepage  Reply with Quote

You can download the music foc at this url
http://toterallee.blogspot.com/

found by scrolling down a wee bit past the 1/2 way point

Bobby Beausoleil & The Freedom Orchestra - Lucifer Rising
Bobby Beausoleil's name will be familiar to anybody who has read about the Manson Family and the murders committed in Southern California in the late 1960's. His story and the story of this album is fascinating, and I recommend using Google to find out more. I was expecting some agressive, 'satanic' music, but instead I found this album to be one of the most beautiful psychedelic recordings ever. It's hard to believe this was made by men who were in prison. The first disc is a soundtrack to a 1970's underground film by Kenneth Anger, the second disc contains some of Mr. Beausoleil's recordings from the 1960's, the highlight being a 24 minute piece by "The Magick Powerhouse Of Oz".

Part 1 Part 2
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kdion11
Old Love

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  23:34:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Punk Floyd

Thanks for the tips and info, everyone.

What was the oddest rumor you heard about Love?

All you need is Love



KD: The rumors about Snoopy and Johnny E !
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - you should hunt down the Zig Zag
Snoopy interview from the mid 1970's if you want to
read some great rumors and innuendo about LOVE -
the craziest, most out there group ever !

Free the Rumors !
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kdion11
Old Love

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2008 :  23:35:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Punk Floyd

Took me 30 seconds to find the article. The Internet rocks!

http://www.sfweekly.com/2004-11-17/news/lucifer-arisen/

All you need is Love



KD: Cool, glad we could be of assistance. All you've
got to do now is get hold of that ZIG ZAG Snoopy thang.

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Punk Floyd
First Love

18 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  05:00:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found it on a site but the link is dead. I'll keep looking for it elsewhere.

I found this though. You might have this stuff on this board already, I'm not sure.

http://observer1984.blogspot.com/2007/09/have-you-ever-heard-of-arthur-lee.html

http://www.united-mutations.com/



Arthur Lee and Love on You Tube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Arthur+Lee+and+Love+&search=Search

http://www.lekiwi.com/ArthurIndex.htm

Articles

http://www.lekiwi.com/ArthurIndex.htm

Photos

http://www.lekiwi.com/ArthurIndex.htm


M Files

http://the-m-files.com/


http://poisgoneforever.blogspot.com/

http://search.virginmedia.com/results/?channel=search&vml=non-customer&vmt=&f=0&q=+arthur+lee+and+love+Zig+Zag+Archives&cr=



Scroll down to Love on the following link. Zig Zag articles but you have to register once you get to the site. I still haven't found the 1970 article, though.

http://www.rocksbackpages.com/writer.html?WriterID=tobler

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