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lemonade kid Posted - 22/06/2010 : 20:49:41
Some great smokey psychedelic tinged folk back in the day.

"One Toke Over The Line" qualifies, if only for the title...always
had me wondering how it got airplay; but it was released in a more
tolerant era....just because of the title it would not have made it a
few years earlier...
like Eight Miles High!

This one qualifies as folk rock blues psych..not sure but I like it....of course much folk is rooted in folk blues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1W7413htv8&feature=related

"Susan Jane" by Sarofeen & Smoke. Anyone know this great vocalist & band??
Pretty rare stuff!

So share some folk while you toke...that has that smokey aura we love.



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boombox Posted - 15/07/2010 : 17:14:26
'Virgin Forest' is quite a tough listen though!

I'd definitely agree the Zappa connection and would think perhaps their influence reached across the pond further than Bowie. I am thinking early Softs and Gong and am willing to bet Gilli Smythe and Daevid Alllen have some Kupferberg in their personal collections. And along the same lines, White Noise's 'An Electric Storm in Hell' from 1968 took Fugs and Zappa type collages to the extreme with fantastic effect.
lemonade kid Posted - 15/07/2010 : 15:59:29
Their sound collages were unique in the history of rock...or music period.

They were quite an influence, and still are. Zappa may have influenced the Fugs. The Velvets were influenced by the Fugs and visa versa as they (Velvets, Fugs, Holy Modals)were the only authentic Lower East Side bands. David Bowie was playing a Fugs song as early as 1967.

And there are strange stories from Sanders about the Mafia pressing hootleg copies of the second "shield" album and cutting into all the profits...also that ESP was selling albums out the back door to distributors.

A great band and a great history to write there!!


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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp
boombox Posted - 15/07/2010 : 14:57:37
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

quote:
Originally posted by rocker

Did you guy note that Kupferberg of the Fugs just died? I'm sure there was more than a couple of "tokes" in his life......that
was a wild "folk?" group.....

RIP....I'll have to get my "Sheild" album out. They made more
than a few teenage girls blush with their music!


And don't forget they gave birth to the Holy Modal Rounders...


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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp



Very sad news indeed. I had always hoped he would make it over to the UK some time, just to do poetry or something. Of course, it was THAT song in Easy Rider which introduced me to the HMR and then the Fugs, who I actually prefer. I just read that he and Ed Sanders were working on a new Fugs album - hope it gets finished.
lemonade kid Posted - 14/07/2010 : 18:49:41
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

Did you guy note that Kupferberg of the Fugs just died? I'm sure there was more than a couple of "tokes" in his life......that
was a wild "folk?" group.....

RIP....I'll have to get my "Sheild" album out. They made more
than a few teenage girls blush with their music!


And don't forget they gave birth to the Holy Modal Rounders...


____________________________________________________________
Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp
rocker Posted - 14/07/2010 : 14:17:26
Did you guy note that Kupferberg of the Fugs just died? I'm sure there was more than a couple of "tokes" in his life......that
was a wild "folk?" group.....
bob f. Posted - 10/07/2010 : 02:57:35
yeah, LK....I played Buckley's 3rd, self-titled album yesterday, and was thinking about how the music sounds like Country Joe and the Fish's more ethereal spacy stuff at times, and a little like Tiny Tim, too, sometimes. Buckley was a special one.

...what the world needs now...
lemonade kid Posted - 09/07/2010 : 16:37:54
All of Tim Buckley's "Goodbye & Hello" LP is pretty psychedelic folk rock.
Phantasmagoria In Two, Hallucinations, Goodbye and Hello....

Just when Tim had settled in to a new fan base, he would say, "The hell with that", and move on to another....leaving a bunch of bewildered ex-fans in his wake.

Not me...love the guy.


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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp
markk Posted - 09/07/2010 : 00:15:57
Going in another direction, but still Folk and Toke, a little jug
band tune from Jim Kweskin, "If Your A Viper".
A sort of obscure song from an obscure group.

"Now you know your body is spent
You don't give a darn if you don't pay rent
Light that tea , let it be
If your a viper."
lemonade kid Posted - 08/07/2010 : 15:07:22
quote:
Originally posted by rocker

and oh I was just thinking maybe One Toke over the Line" was a few aof the songs that brought a little Christianity into rock, eh????.........had to be tokes giving some religious revelation!!

"One toke over the line sweet Jesus one toke over the line....!

Right...Brewer & Shipley put a little controversy in their songs
as many of the day did. On their Weeds album it was was about
patriots and the bad things going on, the war, the freaks, the
environment.... Back then they were in the mainstream. Nowadays they
want milk-toast and lily white for the music machines.
That is not to say that the protest songs and the music that
questions is not out there...
being made today, those songs that question the status quo, you just aren't going to hear
it on the mainstream radio....except by RW maybe! But RW was never
in that "mainstream"...keep on playing the Spirit of Love, Rick.



Time for a little "Notorious"....you all got me "going back"!! Hillman's coming out album!

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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp
rocker Posted - 08/07/2010 : 14:18:32
and oh I was just thinking maybe One Toke over the Line" was a few aof the songs that brought a little Christianity into rock, eh????.........had to be tokes giving some religious revelation!!

"One toke over the line sweet Jesus one toke over the line....!
rocker Posted - 08/07/2010 : 14:13:30
Sweetheart of the Rodeo was a hugely courageous musical venture that helped to breach hitherto impenetrable musical barriers

Agreed and what I found really ironic about the album was that it was really a "conservative" musical move that influenced all the revolutionary stuff we got after it by various bands of whom we know very well. I don't know. Maybe if no "Hickory Wind" or "Blue Canadian Rockies" maybe no "Sin City"?????

And as far as 'Notorious" I'm wnodering if there's any other record that links a "countrified" sound so well with rock. Beautiful songs like "Goin Back and "I Wasn't Born to Follow" are just hard to beat!
If any bring them on...
John9 Posted - 07/07/2010 : 19:30:31
The strange thing is that Notorious had been a big hit here in the UK and is rightly considered to be The Byrds' crowning achievement - but Sweetheart did not even make the charts at all. There is no denying though, that Sweetheart of the Rodeo was a hugely courageous musical venture that helped to breach hitherto impenetrable musical barriers. As such, it lays claim to an important place in history - just like Fairport Convention's Liege and Lief from a year or so later.
rocker Posted - 07/07/2010 : 14:21:58
hey did McGuinn Hillman et al light up at the Opry?????
Wonder if Merle (that Okie!) was in the audience that day!...
boombox Posted - 06/07/2010 : 16:21:55
quote:
Originally posted by lemonade kid

The Weeds album by Brewer & Shipley was cutting edge country rock and
was released arounfd the same time as Sweetheart of the Rodeo. For me
it is much more accessible than Sweetheart, though I love Sweetheart now.

They even recruited Red Rhodes for an overall album sound. So pedal fans check this out if you haven't....not a lot of upfront pedal steel but it is there giving it life.

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Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp



Have to agree on that, though Sweetheart was never really one of my favourite Byrds albums anyway. And they also had Bloomfield, Hopkins and Seatrain's Richard Greene on Weeds too - they must have had some fun at those recording sessions.
lemonade kid Posted - 01/07/2010 : 21:23:30
The Weeds album by Brewer & Shipley was cutting edge country rock and
was released arounfd the same time as Sweetheart of the Rodeo. For me
it is much more accessible than Sweetheart, though I love Sweetheart now.

They even recruited Red Rhodes for an overall album sound. So pedal fans check this out if you haven't....not a lot of upfront pedal steel but it is there giving it life.

____________________________________________________________
Everything you do returns at last to you,
so why don't you...do...love.
-Tom Rapp

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