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John9 |
Posted - 12/11/2010 : 17:13:01 From the Independent last Saturday. Jac Holman strolls around Bleecker St revisiting some of his old haunts. If you read right down to the bottom, you'll see Forever Changes listed as one of the five truly essential Elektra albums....and there's a really interetsting video:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/jac-holzman-weird-scenes-from-inside-the-goldmine-2125293.html |
15 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
waxburn |
Posted - 16/11/2010 : 14:51:05 quote: Originally posted by lemonade kid
I'd love to hear more, wax. Any short bits you can share....would be great.
Fred is one of my all time favorites and the stories have always painted Fred as a talented, drug addled miscreant that fled the music scene to escape the drugs and the stress, as if he didn't enjoy his own music anymore at all.
Apologies to Fred for believing the hype that is untrue...even from a bit I read in Mojo some years back that supported those stories.
____________________________________________________________ We need Hippies, now, more than ever... -LK
that MOJO article was a trip, most of it nonsensense. Fred would sign postcards, address them to the people he didnt want to see, give them to friends travling and have them mail them from faraway places. That Mojo article made me laugh, with Fred being in Cuba, or France or wherever. The dolphins project was started by Ric Obarry(OFeldman)who now is on TV all the time, and in the documentary The Cove, originally to study them later it morphed into saving them. Fred hated anyone who wanted to try to get him to do anything. Drugs, he didnt hate so much. |
lemonade kid |
Posted - 16/11/2010 : 02:38:35 quote: Originally posted by Joe Morris
no we're not gonna play Stonehenge!
____________________________________________________________ We need Hippies, now, more than ever... -LK |
Joe Morris |
Posted - 16/11/2010 : 01:33:42 no we're not gonna play Stonehenge! |
lemonade kid |
Posted - 16/11/2010 : 01:29:54 quote: Originally posted by sometimesmylifeissoeerie
Fred Neil wrote some great songs. Richie Havens' version of "That's the Bag I'm In" was incredible! "Mixed Bag" was one of the greatest LPs ever made. Did RH ever record anything as good as Mixed Bag?
Maybe not but I am very partial to "Stonehenge".
____________________________________________________________ We need Hippies, now, more than ever... -LK |
sometimesmylifeissoeerie |
Posted - 16/11/2010 : 00:17:05 Fred Neil wrote some great songs. Richie Havens' version of "That's the Bag I'm In" was incredible! "Mixed Bag" was one of the greatest LPs ever made. Did RH ever record anything as good as Mixed Bag? |
rocker |
Posted - 15/11/2010 : 14:16:58 Jac Holzman....Just seem to appreciate him all the more after all the years. A little "understanding" goes along way in producing great stuff from musicians. I don't know. Are the people in music thinking his way now in nurturing artists??? |
Joe Morris |
Posted - 14/11/2010 : 22:29:07 how long was Fred in Love for? |
lemonade kid |
Posted - 14/11/2010 : 17:44:12 I'd love to hear more, wax. Any short bits you can share....would be great.
Fred is one of my all time favorites and the stories have always painted Fred as a talented, drug addled miscreant that fled the music scene to escape the drugs and the stress, as if he didn't enjoy his own music anymore at all.
Apologies to Fred for believing the hype that is untrue...even from a bit I read in Mojo some years back that supported those stories.
____________________________________________________________ We need Hippies, now, more than ever... -LK |
waxburn |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 21:43:51 quote: Originally posted by waxburn
quote: Originally posted by lemonade kid
quote: Originally posted by waxburn
[quote]Originally posted by John9
...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place?
Freddie and Jac Holzman and Paul Rothschild couldnt stand each other. Freddie spent many years working the Brill Building scene and knew all about the publishing. Freddie Neil RIP was one of the greats and a true beatnick.
You are right, Wx. Fred was at the top of the Village scene and everyone, including Bobby Dylan wanted to be like Fred. Fred even let Bob carry his guitar ...and sit in at harp a few times. But Fred hated the music world more than anyone...especially the easy acces to drugs and what they did to him. His heart was always with the "Dolphins" and after just a few albums, wnet back to his Florida and spent the rest of his life saving dolphins.
Fred is THE VOICE.....what a beautiful singer he was. ____________________________________________________________ We need Hippies, now, more than ever... -LK
Thats the basic story on Fred, but the truth is far from that. Freddie was a true free spirit, a beatnik. Theres one thing about Fred, he never was where he was supposed to be, if you hear Fred was in Florida, thats the one place he was not at. |
lemonade kid |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 17:15:21 quote: Originally posted by waxburn
quote: Originally posted by John9
...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place?
Freddie and Jac Holzman and Paul Rothschild couldnt stand each other. Freddie spent many years working the Brill Building scene and knew all about the publishing. Freddie Neil RIP was one of the greats and a true beatnick.
You are right, Wx. Fred was at the top of the Village scene and everyone, including Bobby Dylan wanted to be like Fred. Fred even let Bob carry his guitar ...and sit in at harp a few times. But Fred hated the music world more than anyone...especially the easy acces to drugs and what they did to him. His heart was always with the "Dolphins" and after just a few albums, wnet back to his Florida and spent the rest of his life saving dolphins.
Fred is THE VOICE.....what a beautiful singer he was. ____________________________________________________________ We need Hippies, now, more than ever... -LK |
waxburn |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 03:32:26 quote: Originally posted by John9
...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place?
Freddie and Jac Holzman and Paul Rothschild couldnt stand each other. Freddie spent many years working the Brill Building scene and knew all about the publishing. Freddie Neil RIP was one of the greats and a true beatnick. |
John9 |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 01:21:01 I don't think that I've ever been bored by any of Arthur's songs - certainly not those from his formative 1965-70 period. |
Joe Morris |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 01:17:04 "Dream" has always struck me as a bit of a bore on Four Sail, not too much in the way of actual melody, although not as bad as "Talking in my sleep"!
Arthur seems to have been afraid of being away from LA during the period - Jac Holzman mentioned bringing him out to New York and he wouldn't even stay the night! |
John9 |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 01:11:22 Going back to Arthur Lee and New York, there is an excellent song of his that is rarely mentioned....Dream. It was presumably written sometime in 1968 and contains the line:
"I just stepped in from New York"
I especially love the bridge where Jay Donnellan's breathtaking guitar solo is underpinned by a resonant and expressive bass line from Frank Fayad....one of Love's best moments in my book...and it has always impressed those people to whom I've played it.
"Don't you think I ought to come on home?" |
John9 |
Posted - 12/11/2010 : 23:14:51 ...to say nothing of Country Boy and Bleecker from the first HP Lovecraft album....what was it about that place? |